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except this team's coaching staff is being built to groom a rookie QB.

Our D is young and fast and will be better prepared, schemed, and coached than it was before.

He'd still have half a team. They got no D.

I'll just say this.... Panthers + Carr > Falcons + Jackson And I think we'd be even better with Young or Stroud and eventually with AR.

Stroud falling to 9 would be pretty ideal

Wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't worry me much. They have no defense. They only have $56mil in cap space so they won't have much money to get help there. The picks they would have to forfeit wouldn't help them upgrade anywhere else either. They also don't have a very good coaching staff. Slightly better than we were with Rhule. He's not much as a passer, but he's a lethal runner. It would be like the Mike vick years, except Vick was an anomaly in those days. We weren't used to running QBs. Now we are. Ravens couldn't win with Jackson and they have a better D and better coaching. I'll put this defensive coaching staff with this D against any offense ATL could come up with Lamar. Actually, if I had to choose an NFCS team to trade for Jackson, it would be the falcons. He'd be scarier with the saints or the bucs.

cheap. won't happen.

dumb teams hire college coaches with no pro experience and lets them control the roster and lets them hire all their old college buddies as assistants. formerly dumb teams learn that wasn't such a good idea and do the opposite.

desperate teams do desperate things. jets, falcons, and saints would be among the top teams to try. jets are desperate for a vet QB, both falcons and saints were in the watson sweepstakes and saints were even trying to get carr. wouldn't surprise me to see jackson in one of those two towns.

i've thought all along that this would be the route they take and this might be the only way something happens. Jackson not having an agent is going to make it difficult for anything to get done otherwise.

doesn't look like he's got much of a resume, but if evero wants him on the staff...that's good enough for me.

it has been less and less of an issue over the years. even when we drafted Cam many teams were spending more than half of their snaps from the shotgun or pistol and since then that has become much more commonplace. @Jon Snow is right, though, that it will limit a bit what the offense can do. i just don't think that it will be enough. good OCs will make it work around any limitations. all that said...i think that young will be a fun QB to watch on someone else's team. he'll be good, but i wouldn't want to bank on him staying healthy all season every season or having a long career. dude makes me nervous. i'm not worried about batted balls from him. i'm worried about him getting squashed and mangled.

thanks for giving me a reason to check into you.

Yeah there are going to be some good options later.

Are you fine with poor TE play or limited WR play? If we're going to invest in a QB and take it seriously, we're going to have to make pass catchers a priority. I'd like to do better than Chuba, but I'd like even more to give our new QB better targets

Priority 1) QB Priority 2 and 3) pass catchers (especially TE) Priority 3 and 4) CB and pass rusher

Carr is a 5-10 year guy. It just doesn't make sense to draft who you hope is a franchise guy this year and sign Carr.

i'm not nuts about that idea, tbh. i'd rather use day 1 and 2 picks for weapons on offense if we are getting carr.

I'm fine either way. i see pros and cons to all of it, but ultimately i trust the coaches. feels weird.

i'm cool with a few different options: in no real order of preference... sign carr and give him offensive weapons through the draft on days 1 and 2. cap hit will suck, but we would be hitting the ground running when the season starts. sit back at 9 and get the best QB available. move ahead of the raiders and get either young or stroud. whoever is the consensus choice for this crew of coaches i'm going to be totally fine with and i have no doubt that they will go hard for whichever QB they want with Tepper's blessing.

i updated the OP using Mr. Scot's earlier post and added Frazier

bring him in. the only issue for him is how much will be be seen as a playcaller here. it doesn't matter how much he actually does, it's all about perception and if he worked for a HC who wasn't an OC at one time and called plays then it would be obvious. i think he'd be a great asset.

Carr is a lot better and more established than any QB we've had since Cam and easily would be among the top 3 the franchise has had.

He also had a crappy situation with an idiot HC. The last couple years have been incredibly unstable there and he's had to carry that franchise without any grown up help. McDaniels is a nutcase. Raiders is the perfect team for him.