rayzor

agreed, but if we had wilks as HC, that QB coach from Philly as OC, and Fangio and then we drafted a QB i think we'd do better than we have done. the thing is i don't think that wilks would agree to having his DC picked out for him.

keep the TB stuff in the TB.

agreed with most of that except i think reich is a few tiers ahead of wilks. caldwell is a bit ahead of him as well. both of those guys are offensive and have had a good bit of success. reich having more recent success matters more to me. i think payton is a prick, but we'd win with him and i'm desperately tired of not winning....so he'd be our prick.

__________/Fangio would be a nice combo.

it doesn't matter who the HC is....Fangio should be the DC. If he wants the gig, you give it to him and tell the HC "this is your DC". You don't give them a choice. if they want someone else, they aren't interested in winning as much as they are helping out their buddies and then you don't want them anyways.

same here. would be good with Kafka as well. Richardson is a 'swing for the fences' type pick, which is exactly what you need and paring him with Steichen seems like the best thing to do since he seemed to do well with Hurts. I'd be really good with Johnson or Kafka, but I think if we need to really develop a QB then Steichen is the man. Though I think that Kafka might be good doing that as well. Steichen I think would do a really good job, probably better than the other choices, at adapting everything to what Richardson does well.

The job is open, so why not? And if they are set in getting a young rookie offensive minded coach, would you not want to make sure that they have a DC with HC experience? I think that's what this is. It's anticipation of getting a young offensive guy. And if you're hoping for a guy like Fangio is is going to be heavily in demand, them you can't wait for your HC to get sorted and then figure out his staff. They may not know the HC they want, but they've got an idea of the type guy they want and they know they're going to want a seasoned experienced vet coach with him. I just don't have a problem with this at all.

Sticking with Rhule.

That does sound like a great balanced prospective combo.

I just turned off my ad blocker and it worked. First time I've read a Charlotte observer article in many years.

It's just a game and the goal is to win it all. I think he could make that happen, but the capital it would likely take to get him would probably hurt us that's the biggest issue I've got.

Why not interview Byron Leftwich? He's going to eventually be a HC and he probably would have been the Jags HC if he didn't back out last year. I mean he's a legit option. Not at the top of my list, but he's worth an interview. Imo, you interview as many as you can.

he would do himself no good by not going to the NFL unless that's just something that he really doesn't care about, which could be the truth. i think the same thing was true for Luck. Now i'm not putting Stroud and Luck in the same category of talent. But you can tell that the NFL just wasn't the dream for luck that it is for most college players. Luck delayed going because it just wasn't that big of a deal to go and he retired early because it just wasn't that big of a deal to stay. Basically the NFL wasn't that big of a deal to him. If Stroud stays in college this year, or even of he's seriously contemplating it, i don't want him. Give me someone who really wants it and wants nothing more than being a player in the NFL. that guy is going to fight for the opportunity and he's going to be and stay hungry.

no plans to keep dwelling on it, but you keep the conversation going.

go seattle.

Btw, as soon as I saw this thread started I just rolled my eyes and thought "no good can come from this" Just don't see the point of dwelling on it or stirring this poo up. I mean y'all can keep beating this dead horse if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the horse is dead and you're just wasting your time stressing and arguing over this poo

Y'all are just going to give yourselves unnecessary ulcers if you keep on dwelling on this whole CMC thing. Do yourselves a favor and just let it go. It is what it is and what it is is something that just doesn't matter anymore. It happened, get over it.

I think we have a much better pool if candidates than last time. Put them all in a dartboard and blindfold him and he could hit any of them and still be a pretty good upgrade from Rhule. I'd actually be ok with any of them. No hard feelings against any of the choices.... except maybe Kellen Moore.

i know people want youth, and to a degree i do too...but what i think is more wanted is adaptability. someone who isn't stuck in their ways and is constantly evolving from where they are. i think that reich is that and if tepper decides that wilks should be the HC, i really hope that reich is the OC because i think that will give us what we've been wanting and lacking. one thing wilks seems to be able to do well is avoid micromanaging. he lets his coordinators do their job their way and trust them to get the job done. because of reich's age, i don't think that there'd be many more people coming after him to HC so we likely wouldn't have to worry about him being poached, which is another issue people have with keeping wilks and making sure he gets a good OC guy.

he's got to be in a permanent state of hangover.

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