@Mr. Scot - How long until you start preparing your Head Coach Candidate write-ups?

[DanTheMan]

I've actually given it some thought.

Still seems too early to post much of anything, but I'll admit to having done a little research.

Right now the only guy who seriously interests me is Darrell Bevell. I'm open to suggestions though.

How about OC?

[cbully]

Honestly, I could be talked into it myself just based on what I've seen already.

 

I think it'd take something more to convince Jerry Richardson though.

 

 

 

Record notwithstanding, I'm embarrassed by this season.

 

Full disclosure though, I wasn't the world's biggest advocate of keeping Rivera before last season.

 

I feared last season might be an aberration but hoped it wasn't.  Right now my fears look smarter than my hopes.

 

my gut tells me last year was 2 year extension. smh

[TonyN]

Most of you guys have been throwing dirt on Rivera's coffin for at least two years.

 

Everyone was crying for his head in 2012...

 

Everyone wanted him fired after game four last year...

 

Meanwhile, Rivera's players continue to play their balls off for the guy.

 

This team is going to be 7-4-1 rolling into the early December game at New Orleans.

[Mr. Scot]

true... in reference to Gettleman, him making some form of decision about RR "assuming" the season continues as is will certainly tell us much about who he really is. at the very least, he could fire Shula in the this season "assuming" we continue as is. smh... there is a thin line between unique intelligence and ridiculous. Gettleman is bordering both. RR has made it clear just based on his staff and the power allowed to them. 

 

Said last week I'm unsure how Gettleman will fell about firing staff.

 

He's got no issue with cutting players, but will he do what needs to be done staff-wise?

 

What criteria does he have for staff changes being necessary?

 

Lots of unanswered questions right now.

[Mr. Scot]

Most of you guys have been throwing dirt on Rivera's coffin for at least two years.

 

Everyone was crying for his head in 2012...

 

Everyone wanted him fired after game four last year...

 

Meanwhile, Rivera's players continue to play their balls off for the guy.

 

This team is going to be 7-4-1 rolling into the early December game at New Orleans.

 

Players were still firmly behind Jake Delhomme right up till the day he was cut.

[Mr. Scot]

How about OC?

 

I think Rivera would probably have to be forced to fire him.

 

If it comes to that, it might be Rivera's head instead.

[TonyN]

Players supporting another player is not the same thing as players continuing to play hard for their head coach.

 

The upcoming schedule is incredibly favorable. 4 wins are almost guaranteed.

 

Rivera is not going to be fired if we go 7-8-1 or anything close to that.

 

It's just not going to happen and it shouldn't.

 

I would not be surprised to see Shula forced out, though.

[xPariahx]

I do not feel Rivera is the issue. I believe Shula is the issue.

[Kevin Greene]

Dom Capers was fired two years into a ten year extension.

 

If the team is enough of a mess by season's end, I believe Rivera will be fired.

 

I don't know that it's to that level yet, but with each passing week I see more potential of it getting there.

 

Only ten year plan I remember is JR promising a Super Bowl win in that time frame.

 

 

I'm all for firing Rivera and thought his extension this off season was a huge, unneeded mistake after one surprisingly successful year.

However Richardson likes his money and doesn't give a fug about the product on the filed as he demonstrated in 2010 when he gutted the roster as he was going to outsmart the NFL because he believed a strike was imminent. 

And he saved money also by letting Fox play out his final year as well when it was time for him to go.

 

One thing for sure however, our only hope is a retread Head Coach like Shanahan, Vermeil, Belichick, Dungy, Gruden, Coughlin and Carroll. Retreads who have clearly shown the 2nd time around can be better and have won 11 of the last 17 Super Bowls.

We aren't going to hire a high profile OC 1st time HC candidate capable of winning it all.

[Kevin Greene]

Most of you guys have been throwing dirt on Rivera's coffin for at least two years.

 

Everyone was crying for his head in 2012...

 

Everyone wanted him fired after game four last year...

 

Meanwhile, Rivera's players continue to play their balls off for the guy.

 

This team is going to be 7-4-1 rolling into the early December game at New Orleans.

 

Pass the bong brutha

[Ruff]

I do not feel Rivera is the issue. I believe Shula is the issue.

 

It appears to be both.

 

One, it's Shula's fault for having such an inept offense. For having guys out of position, for calling plays that don't fit the personnel we do have, and for basically relying on Cam to play at a super human level to even have the offense lifted off the ground.

 

It's Rivera's fault for keeping him on board, for saying things like, "well, we need Cam and Luke to be perfect to have a chance" and "I don't know why Olsen wasn't more involved". For only having two successful challenges in 4 years as a head coach. He's obviously not cut out to be the head coach. Is he a great DC? Appears that way. But, he's not a head coach.

[cbully]

Said last week I'm unsure how Gettleman will fell about firing staff.

 

He's got no issue with cutting players, but will he do what needs to be done staff-wise?

 

What criteria does he have for staff changes being necessary?

 

Lots of unanswered questions right now.

RR is not going to change his staff. smh... he'd make an awesome drinking buddy though.

[Ruff]

I've actually given it some thought.

 

Still seems too early to post much of anything, but I'll admit to having done a little research.

 

Right now the only guy who seriously interests me is Darrell Bevell.  I'm open to suggestions though.

 

My short list looks something like:

 

Serious Candidates

Darrell Bevell

Brad Seely

Dave Toub

 

Retreads

Gary Kubiak

 

'What-The-Hell' Choices

Kyle Shanahan

Kevin Sumlin

[footballisasport]

This kinda reminds me of the Big Three of Detroit. It seemed like no matter what they did, or who they brought in, the Motor companies kept losing money and the dysfunctional problems continued. 

 

Everyone, I am sure by now, know a little bit about GM, Chrysler and Ford. Out of the three, Ford was the only company that took a hard looking the mirror and decided to stop the bleeding or lose the family company to some other corporation like GM and Chrysler did. Ford chose not to take the government bail-out and dug themselves out of a painful financial hole and  turned the ship around. GM took the bail money and was able to get back on their feet but as of today, has more car recalls and law suits from car malfunction and accidents, than ever before in a short period of time. Chrysler down sized by breaking up a lot of it's company.

 

The point I am trying to make is, it's time for this team to take a hard look in the mirror and stop looking for quick fixes and smoke and mirror acts while the problem remains, like GM and Chrysler. The problem with this team has been going on since 2008.Long before Cam, and many of the young players who are now the future of this team came aboard but the problem that has plagued this team since 2008 still remains.The question is, WHY? Why can't this team get out of it's own way and be more consistent and solid team and win more than lose? Why is this team wasting money drafting top players yet subjecting them to the same issues that has erode the talent of those before them? Why when players leave this team, for the most part the on to other teams and play way better?

 

TPTB on this team is not only killing the spirit of every player who gets paid to be on the team but they are robbing u fans. U to have brought into the sickness of this team, so much so that every new player u ride whatever talent they possess right into the ground to over compensate for the issues of this team. Like every relationship u want to believe in what u're investing into, so u hangs ur hopes on this team getting it right season after season, just to see the hope die midway through over the same ish. 

 

When are u going to say, We're done. Not so much with an individual player but the culture that has been ruining this team since 2008. Coaches have come and gone. QBs have come and gone. supporting cast players have come and gone. But the  problem still remains.

 

The question is, are u going to save this team like Ford did the family's name by looking themselves in the mirror and taking the knife to their own sores, or are u going to be like GM and Chrysler and continue living in denial,  believing winning game is a corner this team turned and it's straight to the SB from there, until reality kicks again?