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[WOW!!]

Yeah, the team shouldn't be committed to Rivera/Shula ball, cause Newton already proved he could throw it from the pocket when he walked into the league and generated the #5 offense.

The run game actually fed off him during the Chud Era, and even 2nd half of 2012. So they should be no doubts.

I think JR hiring Rivera and GMan separately is the problem. There appears to be divergent interest here. So hopefully, someone can/will figure out, you can't be devoted to playing one type of offense (slug ball), when you have a multidimensional QB who can, and has already gotten you big points. Just play aggressively every chance you get, until it's unnecessary.

It's either that, or fire Shula (as you suggested) or Rivera, unless GMan can convince them otherwise.

When you luck into a talent like Cam.. You have to build around him.. Just like the Colts have done for Andrew..

I agree Cam imo has already proven that you have something truly special at QB and all he needs is a avg. Supporting cast and you can win...

Another Pass catcher a different OC and starting LT then we can truly have something special here on offense. .

He doesn't need the greatest Oline like Romo or 4 to 5 pass catching options and a RB like Ryan..

[FootballMaestro]

When you luck into a talent like Cam.. You have to build around him.. Just like the Colts have done for Andrew..

I agree Cam imo has already proven that you have something truly special at QB and all he needs is a avg. Supporting cast and you can win...

Another Pass catcher a different OC and starting LT then we can truly have something special here on offense. .

He doesn't need the greatest Oline like Romo or 4 to 5 pass catching options and a RB like Ryan..

 

Agreed (including the rest of your post).

 

Contrary to what many would wanna believe, Newton has never had a great OL (a good one his first year; decent one his second, decent again in his third, then awful for most of the season); consistently productive RB's, or great receivers.

 

Nonetheless, Newton was always/clearly the most dangerous player on the Panther offense, and made it happen, especially whenever the coaching was committed to moving the ball.

 

Not exactly sure, what Rivera/Shula are afraid of, unless they're just stupid? Take yesterdays game for example: It was the early lead the Panther got, which allowed the defense to pin back their ears and get all those sacks and INT's.

 

I only wished, Rivera/Shula would have played aggressively through out, instead of when they felt threatened any time their point differential/cushion is threatened  (did the same thing against Cleveland as well).

 

[WOW!!]

Agreed (including the rest of your post).

Contrary to what many would want to believe, Newton has never had a great OL (a good one his first year; decent one his second, decent again in his third, then awful for most of the season); consistently productive RB's, or great receivers.

Nonetheless, Newton was always/clearly the most dangerous person on the Panther offense, and made it happen, especially when the coaching was committed to moving the ball.

Not exactly sure, what Rivera/Shula are afraid of, unless they're just stupid. Take yesterdays game for example: It was the early lead the Panther got, which allowed to defense to pin back their ears and get all those sacks and INT's.

I only wished, Rivera/Shula would have played aggressively through out, instead of when they felt threaten after their lead (did the same thing against Cleveland as well).

I like Rivera but he is constantly acting like John Fox (without Peyton).. When it comes to his ideology of what offensive football is today. .

If he fires Shula and hires a truly inventive offensive mind then I will change my opinion on him..

And i don't mean a Chud more like a McCoy who knows how to call a game and run a passing and running offense. .

We have either been one extreme or another since Cam's gotten here...

[Cpt slay a ho]

the man did a decent job so far this season, very solid draft even though i still disagree with the kony pick but let's not act like there weren't a lot of things that fell our way, and hats off to the coaching staff and players for getting it done these last 4 weeks. I'm not going to act like the guy needs to be perfect but most of the problems we had this offseason he caused himself............and relying on a team full of rookies idgaf that's a steep gamble that paid off THIS season but that's not a plan that works majority of the time.

 

there's definitely room for improvement

[FootballMaestro]

I like Rivera but he is constantly acting like John Fox (without Peyton).. When it comes to his ideology of what offensive football is today. .

If he fires Shula and hires a truly inventive offensive mind then I will change my opinion on him..

And i don't mean a Chud more like a McCoy who knows how to call a game and run a passing and running offense. .

We have either been one extreme or another since Cam's gotten here...

 

Rivera's either lazy, weak or stupid in certain respects.

 

First he hires Chud, a very aggressive OC who believes in a vertical offense. Then he loses Chud, brings in Shula; who does the total opposite (almost), and is content to keep him regardless of the Panther offensive struggles in the playoffs and this season?

 

How do you go through such extremes? Because Shula provided continuity?

 

I know Chud, became a whipping boy of sorts with many Panther fans here. However, I hope Ron Ron wasn't reading those post?.... Rivera should have been able to determine, "sometimes your defense is not going to always play in optimal fashion for whatever reason and just live with it/don't blame your offense". However, I'm not sure if he brought in Shula because he complemented Rivera's philosophy more as some want to believe, other than sheer comfortability.

 

Plus, if you can't move the ball on offense, your defense will literally be out on the field all game. So there's a balance.