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Scouts Inc.- Panthers Versus Cowboys


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Dallas' secondary is nothing to brag about either.

Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate

1 Tennessee Titans 2 23.5 47 58 82 70.7 41.0 678 8.8 339.0 5 2 33 40.2 72T 10 2 4 107.8

2 Buffalo Bills 2 22.5 45 65 103 63.1 51.5 664 6.5 332.0 5 3 35 34.0 42T 6 1 3 86.0

3 Dallas Cowboys 2 27 54 50 80 62.5 40.0 606 7.6 303.0 3 0 28 35.0 49 9 2 0 98.2

4 Baltimore Ravens 2 25 50 41 69 59.4 34.5 580 8.9 290.0 4 2 22 31.9 81T 11 3 5 95.9

5 New Orleans Saints 2 24.5 49 47 89 52.8 44.5 576 6.7 288.0 2 6 23 25.8 71T 7 2 3 53.4

6 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2 33.5 67 37 58 63.8 29.0 564 10.1 282.0 5 1 23 39.7 80T 8 5 3 118.7

7 Jacksonville Jaguars 2 22.5 45 55 70 78.6 35.0 559 8.1 279.5 3 1 30 42.9 39 5 0 1 108.7

8 St. Louis Rams 2 18.5 37 48 72 66.7 36.0 516 7.2 258.0 3 2 31 43.1 38 6 0 1 90.1

9 Detroit Lions 2 36 72 50 62 80.6 31.0 511 8.5 255.5 8 1 29 46.8 58T 4 1 3 134.9

10 Miami Dolphins 2 23 46 36 59 61.0 29.5 508 9.0 254.0 4 0 26 44.1 80T 8 3 3 113.1

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QB: both are a choke waiting to happen. he aint much but at crunch time i'd rather have delhomme. in a perfect world i wouldn't have either but jake is the lesser of two evils.

Not a chance! Sorry man, I know 17's our boy but Romo never craps the bed like he does.

Not since that playoff fumble in Seattle anyway.

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Dallas' secondary is nothing to brag about either.

Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate

1 Tennessee Titans 2 23.5 47 58 82 70.7 41.0 678 8.8 339.0 5 2 33 40.2 72T 10 2 4 107.8

2 Buffalo Bills 2 22.5 45 65 103 63.1 51.5 664 6.5 332.0 5 3 35 34.0 42T 6 1 3 86.0

3 Dallas Cowboys 2 27 54 50 80 62.5 40.0 606 7.6 303.0 3 0 28 35.0 49 9 2 0 98.2

4 Baltimore Ravens 2 25 50 41 69 59.4 34.5 580 8.9 290.0 4 2 22 31.9 81T 11 3 5 95.9

5 New Orleans Saints 2 24.5 49 47 89 52.8 44.5 576 6.7 288.0 2 6 23 25.8 71T 7 2 3 53.4

6 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2 33.5 67 37 58 63.8 29.0 564 10.1 282.0 5 1 23 39.7 80T 8 5 3 118.7

7 Jacksonville Jaguars 2 22.5 45 55 70 78.6 35.0 559 8.1 279.5 3 1 30 42.9 39 5 0 1 108.7

8 St. Louis Rams 2 18.5 37 48 72 66.7 36.0 516 7.2 258.0 3 2 31 43.1 38 6 0 1 90.1

9 Detroit Lions 2 36 72 50 62 80.6 31.0 511 8.5 255.5 8 1 29 46.8 58T 4 1 3 134.9

10 Miami Dolphins 2 23 46 36 59 61.0 29.5 508 9.0 254.0 4 0 26 44.1 80T 8 3 3 113.1

That just hurts my eyes man.

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Not a chance! Sorry man, I know 17's our boy but Romo never craps the bed like he does.

Not since that playoff fumble in Seattle anyway.

mmmm....you need to watch him more.

you get any pressure on him and it takes him 5 minutes to recover. he has to be pampered.

no way would i want romo going into the playoffs. i don't think even the cowboys want him going into the playoffs.

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If you exclude Dallas' RBs, WRs, OL, LBs and ST, then it's pretty accurate.

Have you not watched both teams THIS year play? I can't argue with the assessment, just look at production. Last Sunday night, they passed the "eye test," while we again struggled against only an average defense. We have a ways to go, but we are capable.

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Yea sorry, that was a bad copy/paste. Those are D stats sorted by yards given up. Dallas is 3rd in passing yards given, at 606. If you don't believe that Ten, Bal, and Dal are in the top 4, go back and look at this past weekends stats. I said their secondary sucks, not the whole D.

Ten gave up 357 yards passing and 4 passing TD's to Shaub.

Dal gave up 330 yads passing and 2 passing TD's to Manning.

Bal gave up 436 yards passing and 2 passing TD's to Rivers.

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