Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Steve Wyche: Negative Vibe Inside of Panther's Organization

TylerDurden

By TylerDurden,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

TylerDurden Grand Master

TylerDurden

Posted
Posted

Wow... Some things are starting to make more sense now. Steve Wyche of NFLN, said that this week isn't just a must win to keep us from going 0-3 to start the season. He said according to two sources inside the organization, there is a negative vibe permeating within the franchise and the stadium (BofA). Said he was told there are serious morale problems within the team and organization.

He said he was told by these sources that the negative vibe started during last season when some of the members of the organization didn't receive their shares of a "playoff bonus" and then continued from there. He then went on to mention the mass exodus of assistant coaches as part of the fallout and he said that if we don't win this game Monday that there is going to be a serious snowball effect.

He said the negativity has continued into this season and that there are serious morale issues b/c of it.

It was obvious there is something not right with this team. And despite our start, and that I expected to lose Monday, I was still holding out hope that John Fox would work some magic and dig deep and get these guys to play their best when it mattered. It's sounding more and more like that isn't going to happen. I hadn't heard of the withholding of playoff shares before... Then the coaches leaving (including Trgovac who was offered a contract), and then the Richardson sons leaving... I just don't know what's going on right now, but it's not good.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
monstercat Newbie

monstercat

Posted
Posted

We will see. I'm always skeptical when people quote Panthers sources. More often than not, it turns out that they either took something out of context, or they just colored what they heard with their own opinions. "Moral issues" could be as simple as players and coaches being down because they lost, which is nothing out of the ordinary.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mr beauxjangles Newbie

mr beauxjangles

Posted
Posted

Was he just speaking on NFLN or did you get this from an article?

It's no real surprise that there are morale issues with the team right now. That's natural. If and how they overcome them is the issue. That's what professionals are supposed to do, and we as fans expect the leadership to right the ship when you have solid pieces in place.

The issue of playoff bonuses is interesting though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
OneBadassCat Newbie

OneBadassCat

Posted
Posted

Is he referring to the players when he talks about playoff bonuses? If not I do not see how that should affect our teams ability to perform. We've got all the tools we need to be a successful team. But our defense has to get mean and fast.

And honestly after the ARZ game why the hell should they get bonuses.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TylerDurden Grand Master

TylerDurden

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Was he just speaking on NFLN or did you get this from an article?

It's no real surprise that there are morale issues with the team right now. That's natural. If and how they overcome them is the issue. That's what professionals are supposed to do, and we as fans expect the leadership to right the ship when you have solid pieces in place.

The issue of playoff bonuses is interesting though.

He was just speaking on NFLN "Around the League" and made his picks on each game. When they got to our game he mentioned all this... And the playoff share bit was new to me as well. It's on live right now.

BTW, it sounded like he was inferring that the withheld bonuses were from front office personnel. At least that's what I took out of it, b/c it sounded like that was where his sources were coming from as well. I also assume that if players had their bonuses withheld that we would've heard a big fuss about it from the players union.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sam Mills Fan Newbie

Sam Mills Fan

Posted
Posted

To elaborate on the layoff thing, I'm sure other team employees that work in the front office or stadium or wherever were a little peeved when they saw a dozen of their colleagues fired from their $50,000 a year jobs the same month that Peppers was tendered for $16 million and soon after Jake received a $20 million extension after his worst game in his career and the worst playoff performance for an NFL quarterback in history. Certainly not a morale booster.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sam Mills Fan Newbie

Sam Mills Fan

Posted
Posted

You have no chance of winning anything if you have an owner that no longer knows what he or she is doing. You can't point to a single team that has won a Super Bowl in the past twenty years that has had a poor owner. You know what DOES happen when your owner goes south? You become the Bengals and the Raiders and the Lions.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • poorboysrev
      BREAKING: Panthers sign QB Kenny Pickett

      By poorboysrev · Posted

      Right...I think they've done really well. No one's going to bat 1000% but they've addressed areas of need and there's no comparison to the overall talent of the team now than when DC and then Morgan got the reigns. This whole season is about seeing how much of a step up can Bryce and this team make. If Bryce can't and last year is as good as it gets for him then at least we have a talented roster for the next guy. I think we're going to be good this season 
    • SmokinwithWilly
      BREAKING: Panthers sign QB Kenny Pickett

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      I said could, not would. I recognize he has potential based on past performance. Compared to what KP has done, Howell has more potential and the physical traits to make noise. KP has small hands and a weak arm. Not something you want in even your backup QB.  I've been hammering since last off-season before we re-signed Dalton, improve the room. Other than getting younger, I don't see how anyone can say we legitimately improved the room or even tried. We might as well have signed Josh Rosen.  Dalton is still on the roster for now. That's 3 QBs unless we trade or cut him. He's still Bryce's mentor after all. Do you believe we are going to draft someone with potential and give them a legitimate opportunity to develop from the practice squad? Are we going to carry 3 QBs on the active roster? 4 for a developmental rookie? Are we going to potentially cut KP if we draft a rookie and he's outperformed? Doubtful. Cutting Dalton(if we can't trade him) and KP would be 8m in wasted cap space.  I chose Howell as an example because he showed promise in his only full season as a starter. You could plug in another name with the physical traits and potential and what i said would still apply. KP showed almost nothing and was benched. I genuinely don't care if it’s rookie pick as long as there is the potential to develop into a future NFL QB.  As much as I can't stand him, Bellichek was always developing a number 2 QB even with the GOAT as his starter. The wisdom of that was evident when Cassell came in when Brady was hurt week 1 and went 11-5 and almost made the wildcard, which 11-5 gets you almost any other year. I give credit where it's due though. Cassel and Jimmy G both came into the league as developmental QBs, potential QB1s, and went on to have careers.  You never know if you never try. KP feels like a punt in addressing the most important position on the field. Bryce has never played 2 full games of franchise QB level football back to back.  If Bryce progresses, are you ready to offer a 280m 5 year extension based off a one hit wonder year? If Bryce regresses and we need a QB in 27, are we going to trade a fortune away again to trade up to 1 to get one? Are you ready to do the past 3 years all over again?  To me, it's not about Kenny Pickett. It's about the move itself. It was a feeble attempt to improve the QB room. We better hope Bryce succeeds, because if he doesn't, we literally have no backup plan right now.   
    • WhoKnows
      Center/Interior Line at 19

      By WhoKnows · Posted

      IOL that early isn’t good value at all. We have a LT who might not ever be good again and a RT that might retire soon. T seems deep early in this draft, so I’d go there in the 1st. 
×
×
  • Create New...