Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

PFF 's top prospects (as of 4 months ago)


top dawg

Recommended Posts

Look, I am not a draftnik and don't consistently watch college ball, but I do become keenly interested once the season ends, so I begin to do some homework. Here are some guys to do some homework on and see what transpired this past season. Some you are already familiar with as a result of general Huddle chatter about Fournette, Cook, Peppers and Adams, etc. 

It's nothing special, just names to perhaps get familiar with and keep in mind.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-top-nfl-prospects-every-position-2017/

For our purposes, I'll list a few

OT:

Mike McGlinchey

Zach Banner

Cam Robinson

 

Safety:

Jabrill Peppers

Eddie Jackson

Jamal Adams

 

DE:

Myles Garrett

Derek Barnett (remember him)

Charles Harris

 

RB:

Leonard Fournette

Dalvin Cook

Christian McCaffrey

 

TE:

Jake Butt

Evan Engram

O.J. Howard

 

WR:

Corey Davis (my personal favorite)

JuJu Smith-Schuster

Mike Williams (numero uno on many draft boards).

 

Like I said, this is just a primer based on potential before this past season. Obviously, guys like Fournette, Cook, Peppers, Adams, Butt and Williams (to name a few) have helped solidify their names as potential day one picks. But keep the bowl games, Combine and workouts in mind.

The link is there to get the soecifics. If anyone wants to add anything on these guys, or someone else that's vaulted themselves in the picture as a top prospect since August, it would be appreciated.

As an aside, Butt brings a little extra to the table just for his name alone, but he can play. And I wonder who is going to get the next receiver named Mike Williams in the NFL. Guys with that name haven't worked out so far.

Again, watch for Barnett to be the pick if some of the others are off the board.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

29 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Look, I am not a draftnik and don't consistently watch college ball, but I do become keenly interested once the season ends, so I begin to do some homework. Here are some guys to do some homework on and see what transpired this past season. Some you are already familiar with as a result of general Huddle chatter about Fournette, Cook, Peppers and Adams, etc. 

It's nothing special, just names to perhaps get familiar with and keep in mind.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-top-nfl-prospects-every-position-2017/

For our purposes, I'll list a few

OT:

Mike McGlinchey

Zach Banner

Cam Robinson

 

Safety:

Jabrill Peppers

Eddie Jackson

Jamal Adams

 

DE:

Myles Garrett

Derek Barnett (remember him)

Charles Harris

 

RB:

Leonard Fournette

Dalvin Cook

Christian McCaffrey

Don't forget about Nick Chubb who will likely be available day 2, and if somehow is there on day 3 should be in our iron sights.

 

TE:

Jake Butt

Evan Engram

O.J. Howard

 

WR:

Corey Davis (my personal favorite)

JuJu Smith-Schuster

Mike Williams (numero uno on many draft boards).

 

Like I said, this is just a primer based on potential before this past season. Obviously, guys like Fournette, Cook, Peppers, Adams, Butt and Williams (to name a few) have helped solidify their names as potential day one picks. But keep the bowl games, Combine and workouts in mind.

The link is there to get the soecifics. If anyone wants to add anything on these guys, or someone else that's vaulted themselves in the picture as a top prospect since August, it would be appreciated.

As an aside, Butt brings a little extra to the table just for his name alone, but he can play. And I wonder who is going to get the next receiver named Mike Williams in the NFL. Guys with that name haven't worked out so far.

Again, watch for Barnett to be the pick if some of the others are off the board. Keep an eye on Chubb's progress as well. If he were (and had been) healthy, I'd think he'd have to be in day one conversation.

Chubb has already announced he's returning

Barnett is a Great pass rusher.  But doesnt seem to have the length that many feel is better suitied for 4-3.  Concerns me some about his run support.  Again great at rushing the passer but doesnt seem to have the power to hold up in run support.  Thus the reason I like a Demarcus Walker or Soloman Thomas as much and they will be available a round later.  Barnett I see as a helluva player as a 3-4 OLB similar to Demarcus Ware when he was in Dallas.

Where we will be Id love a a Adams or Fournette over him.

 

 

The TEs in this group (btw that article was written to start the season kinda looking foward to this year) Butt had a solid year in 2015 that some had his hype rolling as the 2016 Hunter Henry.  Howard had a Big championship game to end the year to start his hype.  Both of those guys are great pass catchers.  Howard has been a terrible blocker, Butt's blocking has dropped off bigtime. (Going to the orange bowl this evening so going to try to keep an eye on that)  Engram is Small and no way will fit here. Having a TE smaller than Funchess and KB isnt going to work in this system.  We have Olsen, we need a TE2 more of a Hback blocker role that we had swole bones in the past and Dickson is struggling at now.  So drafting a terrible blocker to replace a terrible blocker isnt doing anything for the team.  One name not up there thats a better fit is Leggett of clemson.  Bigger, more physical, solid blocker who happens to have soft hands and good pass catcher.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Chubb has already announced he's returning

Barnett is a Great pass rusher.  But doesnt seem to have the length that many feel is better suitied for 4-3.  Concerns me some about his run support.  Again great at rushing the passer but doesnt seem to have the power to hold up in run support.  Thus the reason I like a Demarcus Walker or Soloman Thomas as much and they will be available a round later.  Barnett I see as a helluva player as a 3-4 OLB similar to Demarcus Ware when he was in Dallas.

Where we will be Id love a a Adams or Fournette over him.

 

 

The TEs in this group (btw that article was written to start the season kinda looking foward to this year) Butt had a solid year in 2015 that some had his hype rolling as the 2016 Hunter Henry.  Howard had a Big championship game to end the year to start his hype.  Both of those guys are great pass catchers.  Howard has been a terrible blocker, Butt's blocking has dropped off bigtime. (Going to the orange bowl this evening so going to try to keep an eye on that)  Engram is Small and no way will fit here. Having a TE smaller than Funchess and KB isnt going to work in this system.  We have Olsen, we need a TE2 more of a Hback blocker role that we had swole bones in the past and Dickson is struggling at now.  So drafting a terrible blocker to replace a terrible blocker isnt doing anything for the team.  One name not up there thats a better fit is Leggett of clemson.  Bigger, more physical, solid blocker who happens to have soft hands and good pass catcher.

 

Have a good time at the Orange Bowl! I've often wondered whether they serve orange juice at that thing (a little bit of Peach Schnapps might be in order). 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • THE WALKER BACKGROUND Here is where this gets weird.  Walker is a serviceable LT who could benefit from Gilbert's experience and coaching.  However, he is known for below-average run blocking and frequent penalties.  As you know, a penalty from a LT is a drive killer. A former 7th round pick, Walker has outperformed expectations, but he still ranks around the middle of the pack when compared to other tackles.  Having said that, it seems as if the Panthers are banking on Walker for a year and will then make a decision on Ickey.  In Green Bay, Walker was the starter, but the Packers weren't exactly sold on him. While most people think the oft-injured David Bakhtiari retired in 2023, he really wanted to keep playing.  He was released on March, 11, 2024.  Walker stepped in and took the reserve LT job from Nijman in that 2023 season, but they were close--probably because Nijman was more of a swing OT.  However, Nijman was a free agent in 2024, so the Panthers signed him just a week after Bakhtiari was released, leaving the Packers only Walker to play LT.  A month later, the Packers drafted a LT in the first round, Jordan Morgan out of Arizona.  Most Packer fans believe that Morgan would have beat out Walker for the LT job in 2024, but he had some shoulder injuries and went to IR after 6 games. In 2025, when the Packers had an injury at G during the season, instead of putting Morgan in at LT for Walker as planned, they played Morgan to guard because Walker can only play 1 position.  The Packers currently project Morgan back to LT for 2026, which is probably why they did not seek to retain Walker, at least in part. Based on this history, it is safe to say this: Walker is better than Nijman. We have the benefit of them being on the same team in a direct competition to help us see that. Walker is probably closer to Ickey, except for the penalties.  That bothers me a lot.  Bryce sucks when we get behind the sticks, and a run-first offense with a poor run-blocking LT is not ideal.   Regardless, I think Ickey and the Panthers find themselves in limbo right now, so the Walker deal comes at a perfect time for the GM.  Gilbert, perhaps, can work on the penalties and maybe a TE like Tremble can help offset the run blocking issues, so maybe we can actually stay the course at OT.  Maybe we do not draft a LT--maybe we draft a RT to groom behind Moton.  Maybe we draft a C.  At LT, the Panthers do not want to overreact, especially if Ickey returns to form or Walker demonstrates improvement.  Depth is certainly a concern, but a solid RT can be that depth.   I doubt the Panthers draft a LT in rounds one or maybe two.  It seems we have bigger needs at Will LB, DT, TE, and maybe S.  
    • THIS! IF we go offense at 19, it should be the trenches, which is no longer a pressing need with Waler's signing. 3 biggest needs in 2026, IMO, are DT, FS, ILB. We need to upgrade our starters at those positions and I expect anyone rafted at 19 to start immediately. I could rationalize OT (right or left) or CB since we're an injury away from a severe drop off AND have huge offseason concerns at both next year. Unless Bryce plays a lot better, I want to upgrade QB next year so I could get behind locking in a 2027 starter this year if the right guy is there. You COULD argue NCB and TE are positions where we need to upgrade our starters, sure, but not at 19. Both positions can still be upgraded on day 2.
    • He's firmly a second rounder and I don't think we would go that high for a TE this draft.  Third?  Possibly. I mean Rhule drafted Tremble in the third round who clearly was just a blocking TE.  
×
×
  • Create New...