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2004 season and the Fox contrast

The Other Colbert

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All I can think about lately is the contrast between how Fox dictated the team in 2004 and present.

We all remember the season that started out 1-7, much of everyone fearing another 1-15 record. But then Fox lit a fire under our players, many of which were not originally first stringers. The fight and will of the team to come back and just barely miss the playoffs.

Wishful thinking, is that Fox can do the same with this team. Though the season is young, I don't see any chemistry with Fox and his team. The players no longer seem 'hungry' or play with a chip on their shoulder. Fox cannot be the only one to blame, but what will it take?

The contrast between Fox's ability to inspire in the 2004 season and present is worrying. I just wanted to see what your opinions are on how things between then and now went wrong.

This is my first post, so be gentle.

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there's been a LOT of points beaten to death on this forum, but the 1-7 start in 04 doesn't seem to be one of them. it may not mean a whole lot by itself, as it'll depend - as you said - on fox's ability to light a fire under the players.

but what it means for the fans is we know there's still at least some semblance of hope for the season. we're a looooong way from 1-7. :D

good first post. stick around, we need legit huddle posters :cheers2:

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haha thanks :cheers2:

It's just troubling because last year with our 12-4 record everyone in the general NFL world considered Fox to be among one of the more elite, veteran, and smart coaches in the league. But its funny how these people's views change from season to season. I cannot dispute them because his inability to put back-to-back winning seasons together is strange (an understatement).

Remember in 2006 when we beat the Giants 23-0. Our players executed perfectly and the players on the Giants even admitted to being out coached. I cant remember if it was Shockey or Barber. But what happened to that?

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All I can think about lately is the contrast between how Fox dictated the team in 2004 and present.

We all remember the season that started out 1-7, much of everyone fearing another 1-15 record. But then Fox lit a fire under our players, many of which were not originally first stringers. The fight and will of the team to come back and just barely miss the playoffs.

Wishful thinking, is that Fox can do the same with this team. Though the season is young, I don't see any chemistry with Fox and his team. The players no longer seem 'hungry' or play with a chip on their shoulder. Fox cannot be the only one to blame, but what will it take?

The contrast between Fox's ability to inspire in the 2004 season and present is worrying. I just wanted to see what your opinions are on how things between then and now went wrong.

This is my first post, so be gentle.

Worth remembering that his "fire lighting" of that season came with eight games already gone, and half of game number nine already played.

It was halftime of the game against the 49ers, at the time one of the worst teams in the league, and we were losing. Fox blew his stack in the locker room, and the rest was history.

While I'm generally all for restraint and continually caution against early panic, I'd like to hope that if such a moment were to come this season, it would come a little sooner :sosp:

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