TE David Njoku - Why He's The Best TE From This Class + Analysis

[Manos]

The more I think about it the less I am on the Howard train and I'm moving towards a TE in the second or later camp. Our top two targets are going to be KB and Olsen and they will both get 1000yds or there abouts(2 seasons played together almost identical numbers both years). Because of the offense we run that only leaves at max 2k yds left over to be split between, wr2 wr3 wr4 te2 rb1 rb2 fb, that averages out to slightly under 300 yards each and while the numbers won't be that even history shows none of those positions is going to be heavily focused on. Now if we've decided to become a saints esque team and throw for 5k yards a season then fine but last time I checked we are still run by Ron and pals so I don't see that happening.

 

Taking a guy at 8 who is going to max out at around 500 yards for the next 3 seasons(I think Olsen lasts that long before he retires) is just dumb. Even when Chud was here and we had shockey and Olsen both we only got about 1100 yards from our te's the same amount we've been getting now we just concentrated it all on one player instead of 2.

 

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[Darvinsun]

13 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Njoku just started playing football a few years ago. That's why. He's also still growing into his frame. Look at the tape, there were points during the season where Njoku was getting all the attention, giving the WRs wayyyyy better match ups. I could care less about Howard being underutilized. He's coming from Alabama where the ceiling is low for prospects and are driven to the ground from the work load. If Howard were so great, Saban would have used him way more.

Be goddamn honest, if it weren't for the national championship games, would you really consider him a 1st round prospect? NO. He barely flashed.

Njoku was Kaaya's safety net by the end of the season, not the third or fourth option.

Thats where you are wrong..on offense Nick Saban is a run first mentality..that is why howard is so good in run blocking rather than passing...nick just started using the pass a little more the past 2 yrs and most were quick throws..nick has never over used good receivers not even julio or cooper the work horse has always been the Rbs...i am very cautious when it comes to Bama rbs he runs them into the ground.

[Darvinsun]

8 minutes ago, Manos said:

The more I think about it the less I am on the Howard train and I'm moving towards a TE in the second or later camp. Our top two targets are going to be KB and Olsen and they will both get 1000yds or there abouts(2 seasons played together almost identical numbers both years). Because of the offense we run that only leaves at max 2k yds left over to be split between, wr2 wr3 wr4 te2 rb1 rb2 fb, that averages out to slightly under 300 yards each and while the numbers won't be that even history shows none of those positions is going to be heavily focused on. Now if we've decided to become a saints esque team and throw for 5k yards a season then fine but last time I checked we are still run by Ron and pals so I don't see that happening.

 

Taking a guy at 8 who is going to max out at around 500 yards for the next 3 seasons(I think Olsen lasts that long before he retires) is just dumb. Even when Chud was here and we had shockey and Olsen both we only got about 1100 yards from our te's the same amount we've been getting now we just concentrated it all on one player instead of 2.

 

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Not about the yds they get but the potential of having multiple weapons on the field that can help the wrs get open as well and having sure player when in the red zone who do you cover..with 2 good tes and benji and one quick receiver plus cam or stew.

[LinvilleGorge]

This is really gonna ruffle the feathers of the pro-Njoku crowd, but I wouldn't even consider the guy before the 3rd round. Those hands are just too suspect and I've seen enough balls come off the hands of Panthers' receivers in recent years. It doesn't matter how fast you run or how open you get or how dangerous you are after the catch if you don't actually catch the football. Sure handed receivers please!

[FuFuLamePoo]

Not as good as Howard

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[Saca312]

3 hours ago, Woodie said:

Then why does pretty much every reputable evaluator have Howard ranked higher, and any team scout reports that come out also list Howard as the top TE prospect this year?

Look, I'm not trying to knock Njoku in any way.  I'm just saying that I believe Howard is the better prospect.  I get why you like Njoku, he's a very good prospect, and the gap is not huge.  Both should be 1st round picks, and I expect both will be good pros.  But if we end up taking one, it will most likely be Howard at #8 since Njoku won't be there at 40. 

I don't want Njoku at 8, but Matt Waldman does like him more than Howard for a variety of reasons.

Pretty much the only draftnik out there who watches film and analyzes it to make an actual profit off of quality work.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

I don't want Njoku at 8, but Matt Waldman does like him more than Howard for a variety of reasons.

Pretty much the only draftnik out there who watches film and analyzes it to make an actual profit off of quality work.

Meanwhile, Ethan Young made you go from swinging on Jamal Adams' sack to saying he isn't worth a 1st round pick simply by posting a couple of gifs of him missing tackles.

[Saca312]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Meanwhile, Ethan Young made you go from swinging on Jamal Adams' sack to saying he isn't worth a 1st round pick simply by posting a couple of gifs of him missing tackles.

He reaffirmed some of my worries I saw. Thing is, Jamal DID miss a bit of tackles, but I didn't think too much of it.

Simply put, I've watched too many highlight reels rather than look at the games of him, and Ethan was right. He does whiff up tackles in some games of his. 

I don't agree that Adams isn't worth a first rounder, but I'm questioning his top 10 position.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

I don't agree that Adams isn't worth a first rounder

 

17 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Well, personally speaking, I feel there's better value at 31 for you guys than Obi. 

At 8, I'm leaning on getting a potential monster rusher like Thomas, or a productive dude in Barnett or Allen.

Do not feel Jamal Adams is worth a first rounder anymore, but he'll likely be overdrafted by someone. Malik Hooker would be a solid grab though.

Fournette would be nice, but I'm scared half to death he'll bust in our offense if we don't evolve. Fournette sucks in the shotgun, while Cam only has 9.2% of his snaps from under center. I feel though our coaching staff could implement some evolutions in that area to let everyone thrive even if that were the case, but I'd still be a bit worried.

 

 

 

[Saca312]

19 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 

 

 

You understand at one point I considered Adams to be BPA if he even fell to us.

I change my opinion when I see qualities that contradict my original opinion with evidence. At first, it swayed me to the point I realized he did have many missed tackles and less of an enforcing type than originally thought. But, considering his flashes, they show he would be worth a lower first rounder.

I have free will to change my opinion as I please.

[LinvilleGorge]

17 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

You understand at one point I considered Adams to be BPA if he even fell to us.

I change my opinion when I see qualities that contradict my original opinion with evidence. At first, it swayed me to the point I realized he did have many missed tackles and less of an enforcing type than originally thought. But, considering his flashes, they show he would be worth a lower first rounder.

I have free will to change my opinion as I please.

Just seems like you're flip flopping all over the place, that's all.

[Saca312]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Just seems like you're flip flopping all over the place, that's all.

When new information comes in that lets me see a new angle on a draft prospect, I consider it.

I mean Jabrill Peppers used to be a top 5 prospect, but look at him now.

[beastson]

13 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

When new information comes in that lets me see a new angle on a draft prospect, I consider it.

I mean Jabrill Peppers used to be a top 5 prospect, but look at him now.

Far as SS, I'm still picking him first. Nothing has changed my mind