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I support Butker & Gano to be cut BUT i also wondeer & will ask here 

who will do Kickoffs I know one think that I wonder is hasn't Gano done all the Kickoffs ? 

I know Palardy did in college BUT i'm not sure Butker or Lee has ever done them & Gano kicks many kicks deep so no Returns can be made 

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Butker kicked a couple in the two games thus far, did the same thing as Gano in kicking it through the endzone. Another thing I really dislike about our coaching staff is the seeming refusal to kick it high and at the goal line to make them return it, there is a penalty on special teams almost always anyway. If you notice we started inside the 15 a few times after a kickoff yesterday. At some point us having a bottom 3 special teams unit is going to have to get someone fired right?

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2 minutes ago, Omega Atrocity said:

Butker kicked a couple in the two games thus far, did the same thing as Gano in kicking it through the endzone. Another thing I really dislike about our coaching staff is the seeming refusal to kick it high and at the goal line to make them return it, there is a penalty on special teams almost always anyway. If you notice we started inside the 15 a few times after a kickoff yesterday. At some point us having a bottom 3 special teams unit is going to have to get someone fired right?

Rivera said he made the Returns bring it out in the tenn game that way they can see what happens 

The Panthers’ average starting field position was their 18-yard line. Compare that to the Titans, who averaged out at their own 39.

Damiere Byrdicon-article-link.gif, Fozzy Whittakericon-article-link.gif, Kaelin Clayicon-article-link.gif and Russell Shepardicon-article-link.gif managed just 79 yards on a combined five kickoff returns, bringing out four of the six balls Tennessee’s Ryan Succop booted to the end zone.

The Panthers’ average starting field position was their 18-yard line. Compare that to the Titans, who averaged out at their own 39.

Afterward, head coach Ron Rivera revealed it was part of the plan – even if that plan wasn’t executed all the well.

“We kicked a couple short for our cover men as well. We want to see what we have,” he said. “If we don't take them out, we won't see what these guys are capable of.”

And if it were the regular season?

“The way their kicker hung the ball out there,” Rivera continued, “obviously the smartest thing to do is take it at the 25.”

 

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4 minutes ago, brandon_87 said:

Tbh, it's not about the kicking put of end zone anymore, it's more beneficial to kick high and aim for the goal line, but Gano can't seem to ever get that right either, so.... we're fuged with kickoffs

This... after watching fozzy attempt to KR last year if I was an opposing coach I'd kick it high and short every time. Kicking it out of the endzone against us is actually doing us a favor. 

And I believe butker did an adequate job. Tired of watching Gano  choke

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2 minutes ago, Cuttinedge said:

This... after watching fozzy attempt to KR last year if I was an opposing coach I'd kick it high and short every time. Kicking it out of the endzone against us is actually doing us a favor. 

And I believe butker did an adequate job. Tired of watching Gano  choke

Aside from Smith and Bates, we've always had some poo return guys, none of them ever look good, maybe it's always been our coaching, even Ginn looked like poo

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