More from Panthers.com: Vernon Butler

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Agreed, and especially when it comes to defensive linemen.  With one or two exceptions, most of them don't really show their stuff until the second or third year.  

Hell, who would've thought that after putting up 1000 receiving yards as a rookie that Kelvin Benjamin wouldn't even play out his rookie contract in Carolina? We all thought we had a future perennial All-Pro.

[top dawg]

44 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You're either mis-remembering or ignoring reality if you think that anyone of relevance had CMC as a 2nd round pick leading up to the draft. 

Most had him as a late first or early second round pick.  That's what I remember. 

Number 8 was simply too high. Many people had the Pats picking him until it became apparent that we were more than interested. 

[Ace_Aladdin]

13 hours ago, frash.exe said:

lol ffs

hunter henry plays less than 60% of the snaps on a team splitting time with a barely functional antonio gates, but we should’ve drafted him and it wouldn’t have been a luxury pick even though olsen plays 93% of the snaps on our offense in 2016

@top dawg

@panthers55

 

This guy really doesn't know what he is talking about at all.

Imagine if he had played 90% of the snaps I guess he would have over 1,000 yds 

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Most had him as a late first or early second round pick.  That's what I remember. 

No, they really didn't.

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No, they really didn't.

Yes they did he was the top TE in the class, stop lying 

[top dawg]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

No, they really didn't.

They absolutely did.  I don't know what you were reading. 

[top dawg]

3 minutes ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

Yes they did he was the top TE in the class, stop lying 

We're not talking about Hunter Henry,  who would have been an excellent pick, we're talking Christian McCaffrey.  

LG has made him out to be a consensus top 10 pick after the fact. 

[top dawg]

Well,  back to work.  See y'all after 5:30.

[ChibCU]

There are some people in here arguing about luxury picks and trying to counter that by saying we should have drafted, by their own definition, a luxury pick. Amazing.

[LinvilleGorge]

35 minutes ago, top dawg said:

They absolutely did.  I don't know what you were reading. 

No, they didn't. Go find it. I bet you won't find anything credible past about January or so.

[LinvilleGorge]

18 minutes ago, ChibCU said:

There are some people in here arguing about luxury picks and trying to counter that by saying we should have drafted, by their own definition, a luxury pick. Amazing.

sanjay (ace aladdin)is either a truly world class idiot or a complete troll (or possibly a mixture of both), best to just ignore him.

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No, they didn't. Go find it. I bet you won't find anything credible past about January or so.

I told you that this post-Combine thing doesn't  even really matter to scouts.  Believe it, or don't.  At this point it doesn't even matter.  McCaffrey was not the best value when we picked, and neither was Vernon Butler,  or Shaq Thompson. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I told you that this post-Combine thing doesn't  even really matter to scouts.  Believe it, or don't.  At this point it doesn't even matter.  McCaffrey was not the best value when we picked, and neither was Vernon Butler,  or Shaq Thompson. 

It might not matter to scouts, but the media certainly sings a much different tune on a lot of prospects post-Combine because that's their first chance to really get a good feel for what a lot of scouts think about prospects, not just the handful of contacts they have.

Very rarely does it work out that a guy is truly the "best value" at the position he's picked. That's the way it's always been and the way it'll always be. 

[top dawg]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It might not matter to scouts, but the media certainly sings a much different tune on a lot of prospects post-Combine because that's their first chance to really get a good feel for what a lot of scouts think about prospects, not just the handful of contacts they have.

Very rarely does it work out that a guy is truly the "best value" at the position he's picked. That's the way it's always been and the way it'll always be. 

Bottom line is that basically everyone had Lattimore ranked ahead of McCaffrey, and there was plenty of justification for us to take him.