Big difference in cut players attitudes

[WOW!!]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

George Iloka, Kevin Zeitler, Kenny Britt and Kevin Minter were all considered top free agents.  In addition, the Bengals re-signed a few of their own in Dre Kirkpatrick and Adam Jones.

Now I'm sure you'll say "none of those guys were any good" but the NFL disagreed.

Wait .. Are you talking about players they have drafted and resigned or players they signed in FA from other teams?? Because Top Dawg  was talking about players coming from other places signing with them right??

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

Checking the NFL network top 100 list.. I only see 1 Browns player.. Joe Thomas and he was drafted by them.. Are you talking about another list??

NFL.com Free Agency 2017: Top 100 Players

[top dawg]

That's a Who's Who list right there...

Kind of proves my point. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

You know how I feel about Gettleman's team building, and his inability to get the job done when we were so close,  so I'll spare everyone the repeat.  Suffice it to say that he doesn't believe in windows, but apparently believes in holes...

As for guys going to Cleveland and Cincy, I didn't say they weren't good,  but they obviously didn't have a driving desire to win a championship,  or even simply be a part of a good organization.  Some people will sell their souls for the almighty dollar regardless. Some people don't mind dumpster fires,  but most do. 

Well that's great.  That means we have a chance to sign some guys here.

The Bengals are notoriously cheap.  The Chargers treat their players terribly.  And the Browns are the Browns.

But yeah, Gettleman must be worse than all of those guys put together, right?

(or maybe you're just wrong)

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

That's a Who's Who list right there...

Kind of proves my point. 

So you did exactly as I predicted.

Thanks

[Palmetto]

I think these guys expected not to be back with the team ..that's a big difference

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

NFL.com Free Agency 2017: Top 100 Players

Yeah I said they got a guard who was a top talent.. What does this have to do with Gettelmen being a asshole to deal with?? Is Sasha Brown a asshole as well..

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

I think these guys expected not to be back with the team ..that's a big difference

Or they're just professionals.

Funny how folks ignore that Charles Johnson was cut by Gettleman too, and not only did he re-sign for a cheaper deal here, he actually helped recruit others.

But yeah, everybody hated the GM and nobody wanted to sign here

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Or they're just professionals.

Funny how folks ignore that Jophnson was cut by Gettleman too, and not only did he re-sign for a cheaper deal here, he actually helped recruit others.

But yeah, everybody hated the GM and nobody wanted to sign here

Beason, Gross and Andeson were professional as well .. So are TD and Olsen... They all felt disrespected by Gman's tatics..

And Again can you explain why this much vitriol by players towards a GM hasn't really happened before??

There have always been tough negotiation and asshole GM's. But this much hate for one GM hasn't been seen before imo.. Are you saying these guys are just the most unprofessional plAyers in NFL history??

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, WOW!! said:

Beason, Gross and Andeson were professional as well .. So are TD and Olsen... They all felt disrespected by Gman's tatics..

And Again can you explain why this much vitriol by players towards a GM hasn't really happened before??

Vitriol between cut players and management has never happened before...yeah

Now granted, there's more social media these days.  Imagine, for example, if Keyshawn Johnson had a Twitter account sooner.

(he was a guy that handled being cut really well too)

[Moo Daeng]

Surely this has been mentioned but Johnson was cut by Getyleman  last year and was just as classy. Same with Dwan Edwards. The class is reciprocated 

[WOW!!]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Vitriol between cut players and management has never happened before...yeah

Now granted, there's more social media these days.  Imagine, for example, if Keyshawn Johnson had a Twitter account sooner.

(he was a guy that handled being cut really well too)

He had a Espn job he could have been shitted on Hurney.. And Smitty and Beason did theirs over the radio.. No I'm sorry I haven't seen a GM catch that much hate over all media by former players as Gman did.. Again if he had better results and not takin step backs every other year.. He still be here and this wouldn't be a issue..

[top dawg]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Well that's great.  That means we have a chance to sign some guys here.

The Bengals are notoriously cheap.  The Chargers treat their players terribly.  And the Browns are the Browns.

But yeah, Gettleman must be worse than all of those guys put together, right?

(or maybe you're just wrong)

 

Funny,  I don't remember saying that in this thread.

Are you suggesting that GMs and coaches don't  develop reputations, positive or negative, that can affect their ability to sign free agents? 

Are you saying that Gettleman wasn't basically scoffed at by several players upon his firing,  at least one of which is well regarded as being a class act, one which was tops at his game at the time, and another who is a future HOFer? Are you denying that there was seemingly more tension than usual between some more men of high character in the building when Gettleman was GM here? 

Surely you aren't suggesting that.  

Now you can believe what you want,  or spin it however you want,  but to say that these types of things don't have an effect in the minds of potential free agents is either just utterly ignorant,  dumb,  naive,  or just plain silly (your favorite word). 

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Surely this has been mentioned but Johnson was cut by Getyleman  last year and was just as classy. Same with Dwan Edwards. The class is reciprocated 

So Olsen and TD are classless in your opinion..