So how would you fix it?

[Cyberjag]

This is my special thread for people who know everything about football, and can't wait to share it on a message board. Fiz, KillerKat, GMan, etc..., are you ready?

This is your scenario. You're STUCK with Jake. Period, end of discussion. No Moore, no Feeley, just Delhomme, ok? And you have the rest of our offense, including Jarrett, Moore, Barnidge, and the usual cast of characters.

So with Jake as your starting QB, and knowing that the line is coming together, and knowing what NFL defenses will do if you run 90% of the time, how do you get the offense rolling? What kind of plays do you call? How do you maximize the strengths of each offensive player and how do you hide their weaknesses?

And if it's different than what you see on the field, why do you think that is?

[Zod]

Trying to figure out why no Moore....If we are going to have a worthless passing game, why not have a worthless passing game with a guy that needs real game time to groom?

[Cyberjag]

Because Jake has your kids in an undisclosed location. If you want to see them again...

That's the scenario Zod, how do you fix it or salvage it?

[Zod]

Probably limit Jake to short slants, screens, no throws over 15 yards. Treat him like the Bucs and Ravens did with Trent Dilfer. They managed to get into the playoffs with a terrible QB, but it requires a defense that gives up less than 13 points a game.

[Zod]

Also, Jake's issues are mostly physical I believe. He is still pretty football smart. Maybe go with more no huddle and let jake audible a selection of plays.

[jramsey4]

Did you see the Atlanta game? Thats how. Fox (or Davidson whoever calls the shots) has to completely change the way they pass. No more of those deep prayer passes into double or triple coverage Jake just does not have the arm anymore. We basically have to adopt some type of WCO and rely more on the dink and dunk, 5 yards here 10 yards there, type of passes. And don't wait till were down by 14 to start passing. Running every down might work against the Bucs and may work against the Bills but when we have to meet the top D's in the league we will be shredded.

Fox has been relying on SS for far to long. We have TE's that are great at both Route Running and Catching use them. We have Dwill who is one of the most explosive players in the league get him the ball in space. Whether its screens, swings, line him up at WR, or how bout we try a shovel pass now and again. We have the tools to make the passing game at least good maybe not great, we just have to use them properly.

[jramsey4]

Im seeing a pattern here...

To bad our coaching staff can't.

[Urrymonster]

The problem with the short passing system is that it brings every defensive player up to the line of scrimmage, making running the ball even harder.

We simply HAVE to have a downfield threat to prevent them from over loading on the run.

[Jangler]

The problem with the short passing system is that it brings every defensive player up to the line of scrimmage, making running the ball even harder.

We simply HAVE to have a downfield threat to prevent them from over loading on the run.

Joey Galloway? :gnorsi:

[Zod]

The problem with the short passing system is that it brings every defensive player up to the line of scrimmage, making running the ball even harder.

We simply HAVE to have a downfield threat to prevent them from over loading on the run.

Not if our defense can dominate. Many teams have won a superbowl with no real downfield threat.

[Catdaddy]

If we can mix it up 60/40, run/pass,Jake can be affective.If we do what Zod said,and limit the pass plays to throws inside of 15 yards or so,Jake will do well.I think the surgery on his elbow has hurt his strenght throwing the ball.

[Kurb]

Also, Jake's issues are mostly physical I believe. He is still pretty football smart. Maybe go with more no huddle and let jake audible a selection of plays.

I agree.

I think his arm has taken a career ending downturn.

[Davidson Deac II]

I would have Jake throw more long passses. At least that way, if its intercepted, its like a long punt instead of something that can be run back for a TD.

[Jangler]

I would have Jake throw more long passses. At least that way, if its intercepted, its like a long punt instead of something that can be run back for a TD.

Only on 3rd and long.