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[Car123]

Imagine if people didn't talk Gettleman out of trading for Fournette. Yikes.

Glad Cam and company convinced him to draft McCaffrey.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, Car123 said:

He was bad between 09-11 and rightfully got fired. 

People seem to forget his good years. Those years put him way ahead of Gettleman. We got legends after legends. The closest thing to a legend in DG's tenure is Short and he stinks. CMC maybe.

 

3 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Imagine if people didn't talk Gettleman out of trading for Fournette. Yikes.

Glad Cam and company convinced him to draft McCaffrey.

If you want people to actually believe you're this stupid, go ahead. I've said before I don't think you are, but you're taking sh-tposting to a whole new level here.

 

[Car123]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

If you want people to actually believe you're this stupid, go ahead. I've said before I don't think you are, but you're taking sh-tposting to a whole new level here.

 

Hey I have sources.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2017/07/19/report-panthers-tried-to-trade-up-to-get-leonard-fournette/

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cam-newton-reportedly-campaigned-for-panthers-to-draft-mccaffrey-over-fournette/

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Hey I have sources.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2017/07/19/report-panthers-tried-to-trade-up-to-get-leonard-fournette/

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cam-newton-reportedly-campaigned-for-panthers-to-draft-mccaffrey-over-fournette/

Except those sources don't say what you want them to, and I know full well when you're just trying to be an ass.

So tell me this, kid. Should Marty Hurney and around Rivera be kept in charge here? are you willing to trust them with our future?

Gimme a straight yes or no. 

[Car123]

Don't be foolish, Scot.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Don't be foolish, Scot.

That's what I thought.

[Car123]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Except those sources don't say what you want them to, and I know full well when you're just trying to be an ass.

So tell me this, kid. Should Marty Hurney and around Rivera be kept in charge here? are you willing to trust them with our future?

Gimme a straight yes or no. 

It says that Gettleman wanted to trade for an inferior running back. Gettleman was in love with Fournette. Cam knew that would be a terrible draft pick.

Rivera can kick rocks. I'd keep Hurney for one more season. 3 GOOD rookie contributors is no small feat. I wouldn't mind if he gets fired though. 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, Car123 said:

It says that Gettleman wanted to trade for an inferior running back. Gettleman was in love with Fournette. Cam knew that would be a terrible draft pick.

Rivera can kick rocks. I'd keep Hurney for one more season. 3 GOOD rookie contributors is no small feat. I wouldn't mind if he gets fired though. 

It says he wanted to trade up. Not that he was "in love".

Gettleman also got offers to trade out of the number eight spot. He turned them down.

And if you check your history, you'll find that Marty Hurney wanted Laurence Maroney over DeAngelo Williams. He also took DeShaun Foster over Clinton Portis, Amini Silatolu over Cordy Glenn and Bruce Nelson over...anybody.

Bottom Line: We won with Gettleman way better than we ever did with Hurney. Gettleman is gone, and a year after being gifted a playoff quality roster,  Hurney turned it to sh-t.

He's not good enough, and if you want to give him more time, all you're really doing is giving him more time to prove just how much worse he can make it.

It's time to move on.

 

[Car123]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

It says he wanted to trade up. Not that he was "in love".

Gettleman also got offer is to trade out of the number eight spot. He turned them down.

Bottom Line: We won with Gettleman way better than we ever did with Hurney. Gettleman is gone, and a year after being gifted a playoff quality roster,  Hurney turned it to sh-t.

He's not good enough, and if you want to give him more time, all you're really doing is giving him more time to prove just how much worse he can make it.

It's time to move on.

 

I know you're a prideful man or woman but - can you truthfully say he turned it to shiit? Which positions got worse? Which got better?

[Car123]

Scot wants us to bring Dickson, Coleman, Worley, Benjamin, Shepard back. 

[Smithers]

On 12/9/2018 at 4:46 PM, Car123 said:

So 3 bad drafts in a row didn't contribute to this season?

This.  Bad drafting sets a team back years.  Gentleman was a terrible drafter, even worse than Hurney back in the day.  The best draft this team has seen in 5 years was this year.  

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Car123 said:

I know you're a prideful man or woman but - can you truthfully say he turned it to shiit? Which positions got worse? Which got better?

The position that got most significantly worse was the win-loss record.

There are spots that improved (receiver) spots that got worse (defensive tackle) spots that we thought we're getting better but now don't look so good (secondary) and other spots that stayed about the same.

This is the kind of thing that happens just about every year with every roster. Tou can try the "highlight reel" approach but it's the overall result that matters.

Bottom Line: Ron Rivera and Marty Hurney are a toxic combo, and they both need to go.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Scot wants us to bring Dickson, Coleman, Worley, Benjamin, Shepard back. 

See, this is where you lose, posting stupid sh-t like this.

2 minutes ago, Smithers said:

This.  Bad drafting sets a team back years.  Gentleman was a terrible drafter, even worse than Hurney back in the day.  The best draft this team has seen in 5 years was this year.  

Yeah, that 2017 draft sure didn't get us much of anything, did it? 

[Car123]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The position that got most significantly worse was the win-loss record.

There are spots that improved (receiver) spots that got worse (defensive tackle) spots that we thought we're getting better but now don't look so good (secondary) and other spots that stayed about the same.

This is the kind of thing that happens just about every year with every roster. Tou can try the "highlight reel" approach but it's the overall result that matters.

Bottom Line: Ron Rivera and Marty Hurney are a toxic combo, and they both need to go.

I'm not sure what website you get your roster info from,  but win-loss isn't a football position. 

Only position that got worse is DT. Jackson is better than Worley, Reid is better than Coleman. Best receiving group since the days of Smitty and Moose. Coaching and age is why this team is failing.