Not just the analytics

[KB_fan]

Ron *may* have been too much of a players' coach for his and our ultimate good. I *do* think the guys had grown too comfortable with him.  

And yet, Tepper could have been mentioning "old school discipline" not because it was lacking under Ron, but because he wanted that to continue while adding a more modern approach to the game.

Panthers have been known for a very solid culture. No discipline problems to speak of for years. Character has been emphasized. 

But yes, perhaps some softness has crept in too. Hard to say.  

Overall I see our guys putting in the effort for the most part, but it's been somehow ineffective. I put that down to coaching. Not being able to correctly solve problems that are identified.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Ron *may* have been too much of a players' coach for his and our ultimate good. I *do* think the guys had grown too comfortable with him.  

And yet, Tepper could have been mentioning "old school discipline" not because it was lacking under Ron, but because he wanted that to continue while adding a more modern approach to the game.

Panthers have been known for a very solid culture. No discipline problems to speak of for years. Character has been emphasized. 

But yes, perhaps some softness has crept in too. Hard to say.  

Overall I see our guys putting in the effort for the most part, but it's been somehow ineffective. I put that down to coaching. Not being able to correctly solve problems that are identified.

I think players became just too comfortable and that permeated the team. The coaching failures seemed obvious, however. Some of the failures have lasted Rivera's entire career here, so they were obvious.

[DeAngelo Beason]

7 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Ron *may* have been too much of a players' coach for his and our ultimate good. I *do* think the guys had grown too comfortable with him.  

And yet, Tepper could have been mentioning "old school discipline" not because it was lacking under Ron, but because he wanted that to continue while adding a more modern approach to the game.

Panthers have been known for a very solid culture. No discipline problems to speak of for years. Character has been emphasized. 

But yes, perhaps some softness has crept in too. Hard to say.  

Overall I see our guys putting in the effort for the most part, but it's been somehow ineffective. I put that down to coaching. Not being able to correctly solve problems that are identified.

I think your assessment is dead on.  I think Tepper's statement was more assurance that he has no intention of completely abandoning the hard nosed approach this organization has always had.  He just wants to add new innovation to our philosophy.

[PanthersBigD]

I would wager he's looking for old school discipline and toughness paired with new school schemes and analytics. You can be as tough as granite, but if your scheme sucks, you're still going to suck.

I don't think our players have been soft, I think our schemes have been outdated and our coaches were unable to adjust once opposing teams figured them out.