Per source, Carolina is one of Deshaun Watson’s preferred destinations if traded.

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4 hours ago, onmyown said:

Well yea the trade itself is not mutual. I’m sure the Texans want to keep him but since the trade of demanded by Watson doubt they want him there disgruntled. Doesn’t mean they won’t have some say in getting as much as they can for him.

There was a good article I read yesterday that said the specific reasons for Watson wanting the trade have not been stated and any team getting him would have to most likely understand and accept that something was going on and they’ll never know the full scope of it and this was the baggage they’d have to accept and hope they don’t piss him off in some way, which is true.

If I was a FO looking at Watson I’d want to know as well. Clearly he is this upset about something. Coach hires, trading his friend/best weapon. But NFL is a business and it’s rare you see a franchise QB leave like this. Unfortunately I don’t think we’ll ever know the full details.

Familiar with the term "f*** you money"?

McNair has it...

...Deshaun doesn't.

In addition, McNair has proven to be somewhat irrational/unpredictable.

Anyone who completely discounts the possibility that McNair might call Deshaun's bluff is doing faulty analysis.

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5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

If they don't meet his demands, it is the Texans who stand to lose a lot more than Deshaun Watson. Remember, they just gave him a $30 mil signing bonus.

If they play hardball, all they will achieve is a spot in the dumpster of the NFL for the remainder of time.

they can take most of that $30m back

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4 hours ago, onmyown said:

Watson also loses his chance to continue his career. And is value will go down.

In my mind, both have a lot to lose by hard balling each other.

Correct.

However, when emotions/tensions run high people often make rash/irrational decisions...

...McNair can afford to hold Deshaun accountable --- Deshaun cannot afford to sit out.

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2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

they can take most of that $30m back

They can. If they do or even try, it will make the place poison for free agents. Not many guys are going to want to play for them.

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1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Correct.

However, when emotions/tensions run high people often make rash/irrational decisions...

...McNair can afford to hold Deshaun accountable --- Deshaun cannot afford to sit out.

Lol. He literally has been paid millions. He can afford to sit out.

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4 hours ago, onmyown said:

Watson also loses his chance to continue his career. And is value will go down. Playing time non existent. Worst case scenario he could basically just fade out instead of continue to build on a HOF type career.

In my mind, both have a lot to lose by hard balling each other. No doubt there will be a little of that...but like I said before, it’s going to have to be a good deal and compromise for both of them. Which makes sense because there is no benefit for him staying for either party. 

The Texans will lose more being a dumpster fire than Deshaun will by sitting out a year or two. NFL teams will still want Deshaun Watson. Not many NFL players will want a part of the Houston Texans. Not many fans will want a part of the Houston Texans.

Like I said, McNair has plenty of money but if he wants to go to war, he will stand to lose the most. 

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19 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

They can. If they do or even try, it will make the place poison for free agents. Not many guys are going to want to play for them.

Disagree.

Most guys understand a contract comes with obligations...

...Deshaun doesn't seem to want to live up to his.

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22 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Lol. He literally has been paid millions. He can afford to sit out.

Deshaun can't afford to walk away from $150 million.

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27 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

They can. If they do or even try, it will make the place poison for free agents. Not many guys are going to want to play for them.

in the grand scheme of things, jobs in the NFL are very rare, there will never be shortage of guys willing to fill those spots.

 

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35 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Disagree.

Most guys understand a contract comes with obligations...

...Deshaun doesn't seem to want to live up to his.

Yeah, I mean I can't make you understand logic.

[kungfoodude]

28 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

in the grand scheme of things, jobs in the NFL are very rare, there will never be shortage of guys willing to fill those spots.

 

Yeah, the kind of guys that make terrible franchises stay terrible. If the Texans want to the the 1990's Bengals, they are more than welcome to it.

Winners don't go to dumpster fires. Burning one of the elite NFL QB's isn't going to get good players to your franchise. 

But, this is all theory. I suspect the Texans will blink in the next 3 months.

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37 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Deshaun can't afford to walk away from $150 million.

Lol. Yeah, he can. Why don't you go take a look at what he has pocketed so far? That is more than enough to live comfortably on.

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On 1/28/2021 at 8:39 PM, joemac said:

All off a sudden, guess I'm not allowed to reply directly to members' posts. Since I can't, I'll sum it up quickly. I don't think it's crazy to think Watson could end up in Carolina. 

 

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It would make a lot more sense than the Jets and a helluva lot more than the Dolphins. And more than the Jaguars swapping Lawrence for Watson, which is also not out of the realm.

If the Panthers go for it, it is not unrealistic. I don't think so.