Panthers’ collapse leads to more questions about Fox

[Sam Mills Fan]

Didn't Miami collapse two weeks ago. I wonder why I didn't read any articles questioning whether Miami players still believe in Sparano.

Probably because the Dolphins are without Pennington and are just two seasons removed from 1-15?

[Brooklyn Bully]

Fox has a long history of poor game management, inability (or unwillingness) to make adjustments, and his playing not to lose philosophy.

Instead of playing 1 game at a time, he divides the season into 4 qtrs and builds a loss into each quarter. It is just a thought....but shouldn't the head coach be more focused on winning rather than planning to lose?

And then of course is the fact that Fox neither understands the role and importance of a QB in the NFL nor does he know how to evaluate QB talent.

None of this is new. Finally, some people are beginning to stop making excuses for the losing years and holding Fox accountable. He has had talent here and has wasted it. Fox has some positives as a coach...but he will never be a great head coach, or even a very good one.

Yeah, he's been quoted as saying "if you go 3-1 each quarter...", meaning that he's fine with losing once every four games.

[panthers55]

Probably because the Dolphins are without Pennington and are just two seasons removed from 1-15?

First of all they were 11-5 last year which is only one game worse than us.

Secondly, they still lost a big lead and you could easily argue that Sparano did make some bad calls like the timeout before halftime and abandoning the run game in the second half as worse mistakes compared to Fox. Henne or lack of Pennington weren't the reasons they lost in my opinion.

I suspect it is because Sparano is still relatively new so far and still gets a pass.

[Brooklyn Bully]

Still? People...we don't hear about him because we live if NORTH CAROLINA. Maybe, just mayyyyybe they're talking about him in South Florida. Just a guess.

[panthers55]

Still? People...we don't hear about him because we live if NORTH CAROLINA. Maybe, just mayyyyybe they're talking about him in South Florida. Just a guess.

The point was pro football news or national media like the Fox article, not some local rag in south Florida or fan comments.

[Spike]

Is it really considered a collapse when the simple fact is John Fox has never had 2 consecutive winning seasons? I say this is pretty par for the course. Have a bad season, get a fairly good schedule. Do good on that schedule, get harder one the next year, and the Panthers arent very good. Its a viscous cycle.

[raleigh-panther]

Nothing changes until JR changes it.

Stating the obvious.

Surely, he sees and knows the same things we do.

[Khyber53]

Give me a frikkin' break. First off, the season ain't over yet.

Do you know how many fanbases in this league would have loved to have had our record over the time that Fox has been the coach?

Detroit, Oakland, San Francisco, Kansas City, Arizona (remember, last year was the first playoff appearance in forever), Denver (once again, this year isn't over yet), St. Louis, Chicago, Houston, Dallas (yep, better record than them, especially in the playoffs), Jacksonville, Minnesota (some lean years recently), Tennessee, Buffalo, Miami, New York Jets, Cleveland, Cincinnati ... leave anyone out?

We've enjoyed more playoff appearances and winning seasons than those other teams in the intervening years. And if you want to look at history, well, this year may be tanking and fulfilling the on again/off again pattern. If the pattern is inescapable, do you really want to fire Coach Fox before next year, since it would be almost a guarantee that he'd have us in the playoffs?

Sheesh, quit your bellyaching and get a life.

[MaineManPanther]

It first talks about limiting jake to 14 passes in three quarters. Which is arguable.

But its second reason to question Fox was pretty weak:

It talks about how it was questionable idea not to go for the field goal with 22 seconds left and instead go for it on fourth down. Ignoring the fact that we had no timeouts, and if we were to get the onside kick that'd we have 20 seconds to go 60 yards for a touchdown.

If your going to judge Fox fine, but use a better reason.

[Guild]

dolphins are in rebuild mode....panthers are getting ready for it (hopefully).

Rebuilding now destroys our championship caliber RBs.

I hope that we don't have to and that we can figure out how to plug and play a QB next year.