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Anybodyhome Grand Master

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5 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Horvat will cost a ton. Canucks fans are wanting a 1st, Morrow, and Jarvis… while it may not cost that much… it’s going to cost a ton for whoever acquires Horvat.

But it's an investment that will be here for a few years, versus a Patrick Kane-type arrangement which will also cost a ton, and it's a one-shot deal.

I have no problem giving up something as long as the ROI is over the course of 3-5 years and not a short term hopeful fix.

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10 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

But it's an investment that will be here for a few years, versus a Patrick Kane-type arrangement which will also cost a ton, and it's a one-shot deal.

I have no problem giving up something as long as the ROI is over the course of 3-5 years and not a short term hopeful fix.

I don’t necessarily think it’s a short time fix, it’s a chance you take to win the cup and then you retool in the offseason. The NHL draft is a crapshoot so trading away a few picks isn’t that big of a deal, especially when the picks are going to be late. And while Drury is a good asset, he’s one you move if you have a chance to win the cup and in reality, the Canes have an identical prospect to Drury in Jamieson Rees, who is performing quite well this year.

The year the Canes won the cup, they went out and acquired Recchi and Weight for bottom of the roster type players (i.e. Stepan), prospects (i.e. Drury), and draft picks.

When you are as close as the Canes are, you can’t rob Peter to pay Paul, you have to get into the rental business like Colorado did last year.

Under no circumstances should the Canes be looking to move Jarvis, Morrow, or Nikishin right now. We have enough picks and B rated prospects to acquire some rentals to help us get the cup without gutting part of the team or trading away some future blue chippers.

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28 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

I don’t necessarily think it’s a short time fix, it’s a chance you take to win the cup and then you retool in the offseason. The NHL draft is a crapshoot so trading away a few picks isn’t that big of a deal, especially when the picks are going to be late. And while Drury is a good asset, he’s one you move if you have a chance to win the cup and in reality, the Canes have an identical prospect to Drury in Jamieson Rees, who is performing quite well this year.

The year the Canes won the cup, they went out and acquired Recchi and Weight for bottom of the roster type players (i.e. Stepan), prospects (i.e. Drury), and draft picks.

When you are as close as the Canes are, you can’t rob Peter to pay Paul, you have to get into the rental business like Colorado did last year.

Under no circumstances should the Canes be looking to move Jarvis, Morrow, or Nikishin right now. We have enough picks and B rated prospects to acquire some rentals to help us get the cup without gutting part of the team or trading away some future blue chippers.

I get what you're saying and while our end goals are obviously the same, we have differing philosophies as to how to get there.

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Another thing to note is that I believe the Canes are the only team that could fit both Kane and Toews on their roster while staying under the cap (as long as Chicago retains 50% on both).

The rumored asking price for Toews is a second which we could easily do and then you give up a first, Drury, and Stepan (for cap purposes) for Kane.

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10 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Another thing to note is that I believe the Canes are the only team that could fit both Kane and Toews on their roster while staying under the cap (as long as Chicago retains 50% on both).

The rumored asking price for Toews is a second which we could easily do and then you give up a first, Drury, and Stepan (for cap purposes) for Kane.

The question is which one would we do?

kane and toews 

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Bo 

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38 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

The question is which one would we do?

kane and toews 

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Bo 

I’d prefer Kane and Toews because I think we are a 2C and a 1RW away from being the overwhelming favorite for the cup.

Jarvis is in a sophomore slump and it could do him some good to spend time on the 4th line where he’ll get easier matchups. And don’t get me started on Stastny being our 2C.

I’d like to see:

Svechnikov - Aho - Necas

Teravainen - Toews - Kane

Martinook - Staal - Fast

Noesen - Kotkaniemi - Jarvis

Extra’s - Stastny and Kase

The other trade I’d like to see is for a 3rd pairing LHD. Coghlan was better yesterday but I don’t trust him to play meaningful minutes if someone were to get hurt for an extended period of time.

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3 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

I’d prefer Kane and Toews because I think we are a 2C and a 1RW away from being the overwhelming favorite for the cup.

Jarvis is in a sophomore slump and it could do him some good to spend time on the 4th line where he’ll get easier matchups. And don’t get me started on Stastny being our 2C.

I’d like to see:

Svechnikov - Aho - Necas

Teravainen - Toews - Kane

Martinook - Staal - Fast

Noesen - Kotkaniemi - Jarvis

Extra’s - Stastny and Kase

The other trade I’d like to see is for a 3rd pairing LHD. Coghlan was better yesterday but I don’t trust him to play meaningful minutes if someone were to get hurt for an extended period of time.

In that case, you'd have to offer up KK as well. He's getting paid way too much money as a 4C. That matching offer stunt to get him out of Canada may have looked okay last year, but it looks like a waste of money this year unless he somehow starts tearing it up in the 2nd half of the season.

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Just now, Anybodyhome said:

In that case, you'd have to offer up KK as well. He's getting paid way too much money as a 4C. That matching offer stunt to get him out of Canada may have looked okay last year, but it looks like a waste of money this year unless he somehow starts tearing it up in the 2nd half of the season.

I don’t think he’s going anywhere, he’s starting to play better and I’d actually like to see him get some 2C chances but right now he’s better suited as our 4C. I think he’s our eventual replacement for Staal. And I don’t know what team would be interested in a KK for another 7 years other than us.

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I hate to bring my game into this convo, but it was too funny for me not to share. I offered up Turbo to St.Louis just to see how close I can get to getting OReilly. Not only was Turbo good enough, but it was so good that they also gave me a 2nd round pick in 2024 lollll. I try to balance realism while working with the programming of the game, but that was too good for me to pass up and also, there have been wilder trades in the NHL that never happens in the game as well.

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44 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

I hate to bring my game into this convo, but it was too funny for me not to share. I offered up Turbo to St.Louis just to see how close I can get to getting OReilly. Not only was Turbo good enough, but it was so good that they also gave me a 2nd round pick in 2024 lollll. I try to balance realism while working with the programming of the game, but that was too good for me to pass up and also, there have been wilder trades in the NHL that never happens in the game as well.

According to reports, the Blues want a first and a top prospect for O’Reilly.

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