Matt moore very likely to start

[Sultan33g]

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lol

things will never change until fox is gone

[panthers55]

Tell that to Sherrod Martin.

To my untrained eye Martin played better. I know about the "don't lose your job to an injury" precedence but that assumes the starter is normally the better player. In this case they must be seeing something else on coaching film to keep Godfrey in there. Because there is also the player who gives us the best change to win element which seems to be at odds with Godfrey playing. Although with the pick he made last week the case could be made that the time off has helped him.

I don't really know at this point.

[Sultan33g]

To my untrained eye Martin played better. I know about the "don't lose your job to an injury" precedence but that assumes the starter is normally the better player. In this case they must be seeing something else on coaching film to keep Godfrey in there. Because there is also the player who gives us the best change to win element which seems to be at odds with Godfrey playing. Although with the pick he made last week the case could be made that the time off has helped him.

I don't really know at this point.

that int was a gimme...but the pass breakup of kellen winslow was good

[panthers55]

That isn't true. Based on Fox's record....Moore is done the moment Jake is healthy enough to play.

See Godfrey/Martin.

First of all the quarterback position isn't close to any other position in that you don't shuffle the quarterback in and out like you do a free safety. Secondly while Godfrey hasn't been great, it isn't like Martin hasn't blow some coverages as well. And Godfrey seemed to demonstrate Fox's faith with a pick against Tampa.

And lastly Moore has his chance now to be the guy. If he plays well I am saying he will start the rest of the way. If he doesn't have a good game then he opens up the door for Jake. In the end you can't be as good as the starter but you have to be much better in order to unseat him.

[Zod]

What is the upside of starting Jake any more as a Panther?

[Sultan33g]

What is the upside of starting Jake any more as a Panther?

none to us fans...I dunno what fox gets out of it tho

[panthers55]

that int was a gimme...but the pass breakup of kellen winslow was good

And both of Martins interceptions were overthrown balls he picked off. Sure he was in the right place at the right time but it isn't like he went up and fought for the ball and took it away from a receiver. Neither of them are dominant players or so much better than the other to demonstrate clear superiority.

[panthers55]

What is the upside of starting Jake any more as a Panther?

That is the reason I think Moore will play the rest of the way. The only way he doesn't is if he is struggles and they have decided they are going to pull the plug n him and get rid of him next year.

[Sultan33g]

And both of Martins interceptions were overthrown balls he picked off. Sure he was in the right place at the right time but it isn't like he went up and fought for the ball and took it away from a receiver. Neither of them are dominant players or so much better than the other to demonstrate clear superiority.

tru tru...but he at least showed a knack for being at the right place at the right time...godfrey not so much...but what do I know...lets see how he does against moss and welker and we can judge after

[Zod]

That is the reason I think Moore will play the rest of the way. The only way he doesn't is if he is struggles and they have decided they are going to pull the plug n him and get rid of him next year.

If they do pull him, why start Jake? I would rather see Feeley or even Cantwell in there. At least there would be an upside, to see how those guys look in our scheme.

Delhomme just needs to be put on IR so we can bring up someone from the PS and try them out for next season. He is taking up space at this point. :frown2:

[panthers55]

tru tru...but he at least showed a knack for being at the right place at the right time...godfrey not so much...but what do I know...lets see how he does against moss and welker and we can judge after

agreed. FTR- I like Martin and want him to play, I am not a big Godfrey fan and have said so all year. He actually surprised me last week. I think the next four games will give us a pretty good understanding of what we have or don't have at free safety.

[PntherPryd]

And both of Martins interceptions were overthrown balls he picked off. Sure he was in the right place at the right time but it isn't like he went up and fought for the ball and took it away from a receiver. Neither of them are dominant players or so much better than the other to demonstrate clear superiority.

Possibly true, but in your comment about Jake you made it sound like a "simple" decision when it is far from simple, imo. The Jake decision has factors involved which I'm quite sure we on this board will never know completely.

I do agree with comments that Godfrey played better this week and Martin played well but was not head and shoulders above but again it proves the point that these decisions are far from simple.

Did anyone see Merriweather play in that first half of the Saints/Pats game? He was awesome early and then came out flat and got beat several times. If ever a platoon system makes sense it is at the safety position and with two quality starters I hope they recognize that.

[panthers55]

If they do pull him, why start Jake? I would rather see Feeley or even Cantwell in there. At least there would be an upside, to see how those guys look in our scheme.

Delhomme just needs to be put on IR so we can bring up someone from the PS and try them out for next season. He is taking up space at this point. :frown2:

I wouldn't argue with that. We have some big decisions to make at quarterback next year and we need to see what we have. But perhaps that is because most of us have conceded this season and are looking ahead. Fox is in a fight for his job and may only be looking at this one week at a time.

[CRA]

First of all the quarterback position isn't close to any other position in that you don't shuffle the quarterback in and out like you do a free safety. Secondly while Godfrey hasn't been great, it isn't like Martin hasn't blow some coverages as well. And Godfrey seemed to demonstrate Fox's faith with a pick against Tampa.

And lastly Moore has his chance now to be the guy. If he plays well I am saying he will start the rest of the way. If he doesn't have a good game then he opens up the door for Jake. In the end you can't be as good as the starter but you have to be much better in order to unseat him.

Martin's picks isn't what made him better than Godfrey. Totally ingnoring the plays where Martin got his 3 picks.....he simply looked twice as good as anything Godfrey has ever shown.

Godfrey's pick also means nothing. The fact he was out of position way too many times on Sunday is why he isn't a S...Carolina was also lucky he was asked to demonstrate his inability to make a tackle last week also. The fact you find ways to spin Fox giving Godfrey the job back as a good thing/defendable thing......just further proves no matter what Fox does you will spin it to be a smart thing. Are you his wife or something?

Fox doesn't care who is better.....that has been proven. Jake's injury is the only thing keeping him off the field. Once it has healed enough and Jake says he wants to play....Fox will play him. How Matt Moore plays doesn't matter. Jake wasn't benched......he was hurt. People lose there jobs when they are hurt....better talent doesn't get jobs from guys Fox has committed to when they can play.