D-will

[DirtyMagic97]

The part that bothers me is we only had 20 carries between them. DeAngelo should get 20 carries per game by himself.

[PanthersPhan18]

The part that bothers me is we only had 20 carries between them. DeAngelo should get 20 carries per game by himself.

Word!

[nosuchthingasapanther]

Williams and Stewart generally decide their own rotation.

moreso williams than stewart.

as much as carolina is dubbed as usung a 2-back system, it doesn't.

Williams is the load carrier, stewart is his relief. williams has more say so as to when he comes in and out of a game than stewart.

Williams almost always signals himself off the field. stewart almost always looks to the sideline to see if he's to stay in play.

only once in the past 2 seasons has the "hot hand" method truely been used (chicago last season).outside of that, williams has been the load carrier.

people should pay more attention to the fact that williams has taken a beating this season, and for what? the kid doesn't 20-25 touches a game to be effective. especially for a losing cause.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

Williams and Stewart generally decide their own rotation.

moreso williams than stewart.

as much as carolina is dubbed as using a 2-back system, it doesn't.

williams is the load carrier, stewart is his relief. williams has more say so as to when he comes in and out of a game than stewart.

williams almost always signals himself off the field. stewart almost always looks to the sideline to see if he's to stay in play.

only once in the past 2 seasons has the "hot hand" method truely been used (chicago last season).outside of that, williams has been the load carrier.

people should pay more attention to the fact that williams has taken a beating this season, and for what? the kid doesn't need 20-25 touches a game to be effective. especially for a losing cause.

[Sultan33g]

i guess "double trouble" is true

[Carolina Fan]

I understand but d-will is 90% the hot back on gameday.

You are foolish, Jonathan stewert is better then deangelo after deangelo has took a couple carries for 10 yards and is out of breathe and banged up.

there's a reason why most teams rotate Running backs, This is the best rushing DUO in the NFL, no idea why you are crying about it there both pro bowl talent.

[Sultan33g]

You are foolish, Jonathan stewert is better then deangelo after deangelo has took a couple carries for 10 yards and is out of breathe and banged up.

there's a reason why most teams rotate Running backs, This is the best rushing DUO in the NFL, no idea why you are crying about it there both pro bowl talent.

im not crying there buddy ...just wondering why he isnt getting more carries. he might get winded but put in Jonathan most of the times and we stop breaking off big runs and get stuffed multiple times in a row.

[Carolina Fan]

im not crying there buddy ...just wondering why he isnt getting more carries. he might get winded but put in Jonathan most of the times and we stop breaking off big runs and get stuffed multiple times in a row.

You obviously just started watching the panthers, When we had our healthy o-line jonathan, always got the touchdown run in the redzone.

Some fun stats -

Jonathan stewert has 5 20+ yarders and 1 40+ - 150 carries

Deangelo has 7 20+ yarders and 3 40+ - 210 carries

Not much of a difference, o-line blocking is a bigger difference to moving the ball with the run game then i think it is from the talent between deangelo and jonathan.

Who ever has the fresh legs need the rock, they both are good enough to make a play.

[AceMan]

Get out of here John Fox!

There is no way D.Will is tired after only getting 13 carries...maybe 8-10 carries. Didn't he carry it like 29 times in the Giants game last year? We're not running it enough AND D.Will is not getting enough touches. It's pretty simple.

[Sultan33g]

You obviously just started watching the panthers, When we had our healthy o-line jonathan, always got the touchdown run in the redzone.

Some fun stats -

Jonathan stewert has 5 20+ yarders and 1 40+ - 150 carries

Deangelo has 7 20+ yarders and 3 40+ - 210 carries

Not much of a difference, o-line blocking is a bigger difference to moving the ball with the run game then i think it is from the talent between deangelo and jonathan.

Who ever has the fresh legs need the rock, they both are good enough to make a play.

I agree that they both are good enough to play, but besides looking up some quick stats and thinking you know everything there is about the panthers. Compare what team they played good against.

Jonathan stewart: Atlanta 23 rd, TB 31st and Arizona the only decent rush defense 13th. these teams were the only teams he had any decent games against.

Deangelo williams: every team deangelo played against he had an avg yds per carry of 4.8 or better except against, Philly, was, and the Nyj.

I mean D-will played bad against 3 teams and stewart played good against only 3 teams. I see a difference dont u?

[Sultan33g]

You obviously just started watching the panthers, When we had our healthy o-line jonathan, always got the touchdown run in the redzone.

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ok then...this year...unhealthy line D-will 7 tds, stewart 7 tds.

last year healthy line dwill 18tds, stew 10. I beg to differ.

[Wither]

Williams and Stewart generally decide their own rotation.

I mean I see them getting out by pointing at each other but I havent read anywhere that they decide the % of carries.

That relates directly to when they decide to go out...

...they go out when they need a breather. Simple as that. If you can't accept that then, well, tell them to stay in so they can fumble it and perform worse.

he might get winded but put in Jonathan most of the times and we stop breaking off big runs and get stuffed multiple times in a row.

It seems that way, doesn't it? However, the stats say otherwise and in retrospect, it probably has more to do with obvious play calls than the backs.

[Sultan33g]

It seems that way, doesn't it? However, the stats say otherwise.

prove it

[Starscream]

If this was the playoffs or even if we were fighting to get in the playoffs, I would say we need to get Williams more touches. But, we're not. Right now, we have to have the long term in mind, and the best thing for long term development is to have them share carries.

This does two things, it gives Stewart more carries to work on his game and improve. It also greatly decreases the chance of Williams being injured or suffering the effects of over use. The rest of our season might as well be next years preseason at this point, it is time to work on player development for next season. I would actually like to see Stewart and Sutton on the field more and Williams less at this point.

Makes sense to me.