Jake, Please give the Panthers the best chance to win in 2010

[Wither]

Not really in Jakes case his Contract is pretty much set. 13 million to jake no matter what. I'll try to find the article about it. His bonuses would still count against the team if he retires, since they were guaranteed. 6.25 of that was for this season, the rest would still be a cap hit if he retires since the 20 million was a guaranteed bonus.

Pretty much comes down to paying him around 12.7 million to keep him for the next few years or cutting him and Jake still getting that 12.7 million.

I don't know who you were replying to, but if it was me, I was just talking about players in general.

Jake won't be gone anyway. He will at LEAST be the #2. Can't we all be realistic?

[carpanfan96]

Retiring, being cut or being traded are all the same thing in regards to salary cap in the NFL. So Carolina owes Jake 13 million no matter what. The reason for that is because of the signing bonus. (that's what we would owe jake if we cut him or he retired.)

[Wither]

Retiring, being cut or being traded are all the same thing in regards to salary cap in the NFL. So Carolina owes Jake 13 million no matter what. The reason for that is because of the signing bonus. (that's what we would owe jake if we cut him or he retired.)

Well that settles it; don't give bonuses!

I wasn't being serious, but you can honestly tell me that someone can just up and retire from the NFL and obviously screw the team that gave them the money? I mean, if it wasn't apparent, yeah, but if it was blatantly obvious (i.e., they admitted it or something), wouldn't they be ordered to give back the money? Just curious, really. I'm starting to think about impersonating a player and getting a contract re-negotiated (poking at that thread about impersonating Panthers players).

[carpanfan96]

Yea, the team could ask for the money back in a situation like you mentioned above. Or an other extreme cases.

[DynastyRTR]

Oakland Raiders. They'll accept anyone.

nah, he's not fast enough to play for the raiders.

[njpanther]

Get rid of john fox and we will not have to worry about it.

[Davidson Deac II]

Do you really want Jake of all people to mentor him?

Jake's arm and accuracy are the problem, not his brain. I don't have a problem with him mentoring Moore. Jake is a good field leader who likely has a lot he can teach Moore or anyone else.

[PantherDude]

Do you really want Jake of all people to mentor him?

Sure. He doesn't need to tell Moore to throw like him. Just give him some pointer & confidence. Mentoring mean using your brain. Heck, DeAngelo gave Vinny some credit for making him a better RB than he has ever been last year. I'm sure Jake could do something like that. Beside, surely Jake can be a better QB coach than the guy we have right now name Rip, right?