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What will we do with our 1st round pick...


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The one that we get when we slap the 1st round tender on Moore (Restricted Free Agent) and a QB needy team betters the offer, which is not much for a young starting QB. I don't want it to happen, but do not think that it is outside of the realm of possibility.

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So i assume no one here thinks that Moore would command a late first rounder if they could sign him for less than 2 mil a year? I don't think it would happen, but do think that there are teams out there that would give up a 1st rounder for a QB with 3 years of experience and proven success. Teams such as San Fran (who has 2 first rounders), Vikings (if Favre retires), Tampa Bay, Washington, Oakland, or Seattle.

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The only way we get a first rounder this year is if they want to trade Williams... Or we trade ours next year with an additional late round pick. Draft isnt everything so I hope we just ride this year out and stick with what we have.

Sticking with what we have didn't work this year...granted the QB situation killed us. But remaining stagnant in the NFL these days is a recipe for disaster. Regardless, I think we should keep Moore and Williams, use the few picks we have for depth, and add a WR in FA. I just started this thread because the possibility always exists.

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So i assume no one here thinks that Moore would command a late first rounder if they could sign him for less than 2 mil a year? I don't think it would happen, but do think that there are teams out there that would give up a 1st rounder for a QB with 3 years of experience and proven success. Teams such as San Fran (who has 2 first rounders), Vikings (if Favre retires), Tampa Bay, Washington, Oakland, or Seattle.

You might be on to something here. Maybe if we thrown in the water boy, and one of those smoke/fog machines.....it might just work.

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So i assume no one here thinks that Moore would command a late first rounder if they could sign him for less than 2 mil a year? I don't think it would happen, but do think that there are teams out there that would give up a 1st rounder for a QB with 3 years of experience and proven success. Teams such as San Fran (who has 2 first rounders), Vikings (if Favre retires), Tampa Bay, Washington, Oakland, or Seattle.

Lets look at the teams that you think is looking at a QB, shall we?

SF- They had winning success with Alex Smith and have other problems then at QB, not likely to need a QB except for maybe a vet to back up Smith.

Minn- Could use a QB if Farve "retires" so I agree with this team

TB- Firmly believes in Josh Freeman and is still in development... Give them time, not likely to get a QB

Wash- May draft a QB but Shannohan may stick with Campbell

Oakland- Might be a possibility

Seattle- Might be a possibility

Out of all those teams, three may be a possibility. One team that you did not mention is Arizona... Which since they were in the playoffs, I don't think they can sign any free agents right? But with Warner retiring and the team not high on Leinart, look for Arizona to look for a QB as well

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