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DL as of Now?

DaveThePanther2008

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My take on the current d-line depth chart:

LDE - (Charles) Johnson, (Eric) Moore

NT - Leonard - UTs rotate in on passing downs

UT - Tyler, Irvin, (Ed) Johnson, Hayden, Landri

RDE - Brown, Taylor

This d-line got Meeks-ish real quick. Leonard, Tyler and Irvin are the only ones over 300#. Smallish seems to be the way to go anyway, teams are in nickel (or a variant based toward pass def) more than 60% of the time. Kemo and Lewis don't fit if we're moving to a smaller, quicker d-line.

My opinion? Peppers notwithstanding, Brayton would be the biggest loss if we can't re-sign him. Versatile guy, good push at both DT and DE. He fits, and gives you options against run and pass oriented teams.

The thing that concerns me is the overall talent level. This group needs at least one more stud to be effective IMO, preferably two. Hayden, Landri and Moore are TC fodder or not quite adequate backups at best.

We'll get some guys back that were let go or try to replace them in FA if the find word elsewhere, but still... I was on the "WR is pri 1!!!11!!" bandwagon until today.

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My take on the current d-line depth chart:

LDE - (Charles) Johnson, (Eric) Moore

NT - Leonard - UTs rotate in on passing downs

UT - Tyler, Irvin, (Ed) Johnson, Hayden, Landri

RDE - Brown, Taylor

This d-line got Meeks-ish real quick. Leonard, Tyler and Irvin are the only ones over 300#. Smallish seems to be the way to go anyway, teams are in nickel (or a variant based toward pass def) more than 60% of the time. Kemo and Lewis don't fit if we're moving to a smaller, quicker d-line.

My opinion? Peppers notwithstanding, Brayton would be the biggest loss if we can't re-sign him. Versatile guy, good push at both DT and DE. He fits, and gives you options against run and pass oriented teams.

The thing that concerns me is the overall talent level. This group needs at least one more stud to be effective IMO, preferably two. Hayden, Landri and Moore are TC fodder or not quite adequate backups at best.

We'll get some guys back that were let go or try to replace them in FA if the find word elsewhere, but still... I was on the "WR is pri 1!!!11!!" bandwagon until today.

TC fodder? I hope that is a bit extreme. The players we have now (minus Irvin) played well before they got hurt. I would like to see us pick a DT in the draft but would rather the WR 1st.

Go Panthers

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TC fodder? I hope that is a bit extreme. The players we have now (minus Irvin) played well before they got hurt. I would like to see us pick a DT in the draft but would rather the WR 1st.

Go Panthers

that is the problem with what you said. they didnt have little nagging injury they had season ending injuries.

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TC fodder? I hope that is a bit extreme. The players we have now (minus Irvin) played well before they got hurt. I would like to see us pick a DT in the draft but would rather the WR 1st.

Go Panthers

The 3 players I addressed as either tc fodder or less than marginal backups

Hayden - less than marginal, just a cheap warm body

Landri, Eric Moore - have you actually looked at the career stats for these guys?

I'll stand by that all day.

What I did say was the overall group talent leaves a bit to be desired, it needs one or two more players.

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My take on the current d-line depth chart:

LDE - (Charles) Johnson, (Eric) Moore

NT - Leonard - UTs rotate in on passing downs

UT - Tyler, Irvin, (Ed) Johnson, Hayden, Landri

RDE - Brown, Taylor

This d-line got Meeks-ish real quick. Leonard, Tyler and Irvin are the only ones over 300#. Smallish seems to be the way to go anyway, teams are in nickel (or a variant based toward pass def) more than 60% of the time. Kemo and Lewis don't fit if we're moving to a smaller, quicker d-line.

My opinion? Peppers notwithstanding, Brayton would be the biggest loss if we can't re-sign him. Versatile guy, good push at both DT and DE. He fits, and gives you options against run and pass oriented teams.

The thing that concerns me is the overall talent level. This group needs at least one more stud to be effective IMO, preferably two. Hayden, Landri and Moore are TC fodder or not quite adequate backups at best.

We'll get some guys back that were let go or try to replace them in FA if the find word elsewhere, but still... I was on the "WR is pri 1!!!11!!" bandwagon until today.

Thats almost half the Dline roster (Landri wont be on this team come November and I don't even know who this Eric Moore is). What do you want exactly? 300 lbs DEs? The only guy I see seeing significant playing time who is on the smaller side is Brown and he was getting pretty good pressure even as a rookie not playing much.

Its still early in the off-season. The 1st day of FA isn't even over and the draft hasn't been held. People are overreacting. Who cares what size the dline is, if this D is playing like it did at the end of the season. And lets not forget who still is HC. I see them coming to a comprimise. I wouldn't mind having some big bodies in the middle to stop the run and undersized speed rushers coming off the edge to get pressure on the QB.

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