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travisura Grand Master

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27 minutes ago, frankw said:

How about this. We'll revisit this discussion after the Eagles game. Deal? If Bryce lights them up as the current #1 defense I'll happily eat crow and become a believer.

You'll have to quantify what "lights them up" means for this to have any weight. Give me a Bryce stat line that will have you eating crow.

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54 minutes ago, frankw said:

How about this. We'll revisit this discussion after the Eagles game. Deal? If Bryce lights them up as the current #1 defense I'll happily eat crow and become a believer.

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If Bryce lights up the Eagles then go ahead build him a statue already 

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35 minutes ago, frankw said:

300 passing yards minimum 2 passing touchdowns.

Starting from week 1 Jordan Love - 260

Kirk Cousins - 241

Derek Carr - 142

Baker - 347

Watson - 168

Daniel Jones - 99

Burrow - 234

Lawrence - 169

Cooper Rush - 45

Jayden Daniels - 191

Stafford - 243

Lamar - 237


Those were home games for Burrow, Stafford and Baker

I’m not sure if you’re serious or what you’re doing here but yeah… go get ‘em Bryce… I guess 

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4 minutes ago, frankw said:

Lamar Jackson is a different QB altogether and a threat to run practically every play his game is not a pure passer. He does not need that to succeed. Bryce does.

Alright, here's an incomplete list of QBs that have not hit 300 passing yards against the Eagles this year:

Jordan Love

Kirk Cousins

Joe Burrow

Jaden Daniels

Matthew Stafford

Lamar Jackson

You're saying that the minimum you will accept is better than all of those QBs. Are these really your standards?

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33 minutes ago, travisura said:

Alright, here's an incomplete list of QBs that have not hit 300 passing yards against the Eagles this year:

Jordan Love

Kirk Cousins

Joe Burrow

Jaden Daniels

Matthew Stafford

Lamar Jackson

You're saying that the minimum you will accept is better than all of those QBs. Are these really your standards?

Here’s Tua’s 365 yard passing game with 2 touchdowns from Thursday 

Mike McDaniel could get me 150 yards passing 

Not a single difficult throw here. 

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You ask a question. You get an answer. And immediately start flailing about how it's an unreasonable demand from a first overall pick that you both are saying is playing at a high level now.

Jordan Love

Kirk Cousins

Joe Burrow

Jaden Daniels

Matthew Stafford

Lamar Jackson

All these guys have played at a high level throughout multiple starts over the course of their career save Daniels who is a rookie but has largely played spectacularly.

If you want low standards for Bryce Young just say that and we will agree to disagree. But if this kid is ever going to become a franchise QB it isn't going to happen if you expect him to stink against teams like the Eagles.

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7 minutes ago, frankw said:

@*FreeFua*

@travisura

You ask a question. You get an answer. And immediately start flailing about how it's an unreasonable demand from a first overall pick that you both are saying is playing at a high level now.

Jordan Love

Kirk Cousins

Joe Burrow

Jaden Daniels

Matthew Stafford

Lamar Jackson

All these guys have played at a high level throughout multiple starts over the course of their career save Daniels who is a rookie but has largely played spectacularly.

If you want low standards for Bryce Young just say that and we will agree to disagree. But if this kid is ever going to become a franchise QB it isn't going to happen if you expect him to stink against teams like the Eagles.

I thought your answer held unreasonable expectations, so I questioned it. I guess all those QBs stunk against the Eagles since they didn't meet your threshold. 

I can say that my threshold for a successful franchise QB is 5,000 yards passing and get on my high horse and scoff at anyone saying it's unrealistic because they just have too low standards but that's not very productive is it?

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