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20 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Tell that to Andy Dalton. He was without Thielen and Coker, right? He had Johnson and Mingo after losing Thielen during the Raiders game. Did the play caller change?

Stop the excuses and pulling down the success of the receivers and the playcalling.

So, why is Young throwing more risky throws a game better than reading the defense post snap and making the correct decision? That gives the defense more opportunity to change the game.

Young's accuracy is good. His post snap pocket vision and decision making is not. That's why you don't want to be on the left side of that chart compared to the field. He will continue to cost the Panthers games against good and mediocre pass defenses if you want him to stay on the left side throwing more passes into tight windows.

We also know having Thielen and Coker is an improvement over Johnson and Mingo. So, I'd say Dalton would have moved further to the right if he had Thielen and Coker. Give Young Johnson/Mingo instead and you'd likely see Mac Jones type production with the Patriots having him high and left in that same chart.

You can't just hope Young plays the worst pass defenses like the Giants, Cardinals and Falcons for 17 games. Teams have and will make Young pay for what he did against the Cardinals and Falcons. There won't be an OT opportunity against those defenses. Young needs to get himself over to the right side of the chart with Jayden Daniels and Andy Dalton. The supporting cast excuses are not going to do that for him.

Bryce Young fuged your wife or something? Why you hate him so much?

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Not from PFF but some other interesting metrics to chew on:

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This is actually tied to the playcaller and how often they call plays that - in theory - is supposed to make it easier for the offense and how effective they were. I will say that with Canales, this does seem to correlate with how we seem to be putrid running screens. 

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I believe this is how much a QB's overall performance is helped/hurt on plays that is meant to be thrown to a specific player.

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A rough visualization of pass yards that are more because of how far the QB threw the ball and more on the receiver.

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