Things we won't know until Carolina Panthers kickoff

[Jpjr]

LOL, everybody used to say the same thing about Elway.

LOL, everybody used to say the same thing about JaMarcus... and they were right!

Having a strong arm is an asset but it pales in comparison to having an accurate arm. Some think Joe Montana was the greatest QB to ever play and no one would accuse him of having a strong arm. But he put the ball in places that no one else could.

Coincidentally, I think this is more or less why the Panthers drafted Clausen. If you forget about the hype and media crap and just focus on the tape... the kid is extremely accurate in LIVE situations. I'm not talking Sam Bradford accurate, where you are behind the best OL in football and playing pitch and catch with your receivers against overmatched Big 12 defenses. (Does anyone score less than 60pts a game in the Big 12 lol...) I'm talking accurate on the run. The guys TD/PICK ratio was off the charts last year despite a very shoddy offensive line.

I keep saying with Clausen... the intangibles are grossly overrated by the media. Watch the kid actually play football in pressure situations. That is what I think he will eventually bring to the Panthers, although I agree with most that Day 1 is not a good idea.

[monstercat]

Well, I was just making a joke, but I don't remember anybody saying that Russell had no touch on the shorter throws. That really was the biggest criticism I ever heard about Elway though, so I wouldn't be too distraught about it if I was Cantwell, but I would continue to work on it. Anyway, I'm pretty confident that every QB on the Panthers current roster will have a better career than Russell has had so far, whether it's here or somewhere else.

[DaveThePanther2008]

I got to watch Hunter during his time at U of L. The dude has got a rocket attached to his arm. That actually hurt him a lot in college. The guy had one arm speed... rocket. He would throw a 5 yard slant the exact same speed he would a 25 yard post. Caused a lot of tipped passes that would get intercepted. The guy has all the tools you need to be a successful nfl quarterback.

David Garrad was the same way at ECU. I used to cringe when he would throw over the middle to a running back with smoke trailing off the football. Tip drill City.

If Cantwell has a good preseason game or two we might as well try and trade him for something. If not we will try and put him on PS and someone will scoop him up. Either way we are going to lose a QB once the season starts. Who do we trade. Pike or Cantwell.

Go Panthers

[panthers55]

I suspect Pike will be the fourth quarterback. Whether he is put on the practice squad or the roster depends on how much he develops over training camp. It is not a forgone conclusion that he would be picked off waivers and if he is what have we lost? We would get compensation down the road in a compensatory pick and he was only a 6th rounder. How many of those guys start for us? He could have a great preseason and push Cantwell and Clausen but everyone said he was a project. Maybe he will mysteriously get injured and get put on IR.

Nick Hayden was our sixth rounder in 2008. We had Jovan Haye and Berger in 2005 and Sean Tufts in 2004, Keith Heinrick in 2002, etc. In fact our sixth round picks have worked out as a group worse than our 7th rounders.

[thefuzz]

Well, I was just making a joke, but I don't remember anybody saying that Russell had no touch on the shorter throws. That really was the biggest criticism I ever heard about Elway though, so I wouldn't be too distraught about it if I was Cantwell, but I would continue to work on it. Anyway, I'm pretty confident that every QB on the Panthers current roster will have a better career than Russell has had so far, whether it's here or somewhere else.

Check out Elways comp. %. and his TD/INT ratio, and his career QB rating.

Elway is extremly overrated in the media....ala Jay Cutler.

[carolinarolls]

--younger and faster..OK, sounds good. Most teams do this every year when they participate in the draft

--starter in Moore...only a real question if you are still sniffing jakes jock like DG is

--make it without Peppers...Make it where? Through the season. 31 other teams have done it throughout NFL history

--we will look better this year because our schedule is weaker, just like we did and it was in 08-09

[monstercat]

Check out Elways comp. %. and his TD/INT ratio, and his career QB rating.

Elway is extremly overrated in the media....ala Jay Cutler.

Elway was a winner though. Jay Cutler and Jamarcus Russell, not so much.

Anyway, if the worst thing you can say about Cantwell is that he needs to work on putting a little more touch on the short throws, then he's in pretty good company for an undrafted FA. That's all I'm saying.

[Jpjr]

Well, I was just making a joke, but I don't remember anybody saying that Russell had no touch on the shorter throws. That really was the biggest criticism I ever heard about Elway though, so I wouldn't be too distraught about it if I was Cantwell, but I would continue to work on it. Anyway, I'm pretty confident that every QB on the Panthers current roster will have a better career than Russell has had so far, whether it's here or somewhere else.

Yeah I was responding in jest as well. My point on JaMarcus was that he has a cannon arm just like everyone is saying about Cantwell. The only difference between Cantwell and Russel is that Russel had all the media hype. Now his big arm is getting him back to where he belings... on a practice squad or UFL.

[Hairless Cat]

been hearing that quite a bit this year, actually.

starting QB of the future: moore or clausen

backup QB of the future: cantwell or pike

one of those 4 guys will be playing for someone else by the end of week 3, maybe not starting but as a backup