Panthers do everything possible to avoid starting Dwayne Jarrett

[Mr. Scot]

I don't think Jarrett is a physical WR....he is a big WR with great hands. If he was physical he would be a much better fit here.

1- Moose

2- a physical WR who could block better than probably anyone not named Hines Ward. Despite being physical and a wise vet....he simply couldn't get open b/c he was washed up.

3. - don't know what kind of NFL WR he is....a WR not ready to be starting in the NFL imo is what he appears to be.

Jarrett sure as heck isn't a speed receiver.

He's supposed to be a physical receiver. That's why he was drafted, to be the successor to Moose (Keyshawn at the time). Lafell is the same kind of player.

Bottom line: The argument that Jarrett just doesn't fit the offense has no validity because we've used receivers of the same type in Moose and LaFell (among others). It's not his profile that's the problem.

He just plain isn't that good :nonod:

[Barry Salinger]

Those teams look better than what we did when Fox first came here.

When Fox first came here it was from a DC job 8 years ago. Since then he has been to the nfc Championship twice, superbowl once, And the playoffs three times, so I would say that your statement is lacking substance.

[Jrock3016]

When Fox first came here it was from a DC job 8 years ago. Since then he has been to the nfc Championship twice, superbowl once, And the playoffs three times, so I would say that your statement is lacking substance.

Im trying to see the substance in your argument...if this was college football id understand where you coming from but since *its not i can't follow you

[DaCityKats]

he does catch everything his way but in the league your qb can throw you open.like someone said brees is good for throwing to his wr in coverage and allowing his wr to make a play. right now dj should be our number 2 bc the rookies are not cutting it.

[CRA]

Jarrett sure as heck isn't a speed receiver.

He's supposed to be a physical receiver. That's why he was drafted, to be the successor to Moose (Keyshawn at the time). Lafell is the same kind of player.

Bottom line: The argument that Jarrett just doesn't fit the offense has no validity because we've used receivers of the same type in Moose and LaFell (among others). It's not his profile that's the problem.

He just plain isn't that good :nonod:

We wanted him to be physical....he doesn't appear to be that kind of WR. Jarrett is not the same type WR Moose was. If he was a physical/aggressive guy that probably would have gotten him playing time at this point.......b/c THEN he would be Moose but with good hands.

so, I will disagree w/ your bottom line b/c Jarrett is not the same guy as Moose. That is ultimately the problem. Fox has a square hole....and is looking for a square peg. Fox isn't going to change things so Jarrett can fit.

[Mr. Scot]

We wanted him to be physical....he doesn't appear to be that kind of WR. Jarrett is not the same type WR Moose was. If he was a physical/aggressive guy that probably would have gotten him playing time at this point.......b/c THEN he would be Moose but with good hands.

so, I will disagree w/ your bottom line b/c Jarrett is not the same guy as Moose. That is ultimately the problem. Fox has a square hole....and is looking for a square peg. Fox isn't going to change things so Jarrett can fit.

What kind of receiver do you think he is, exactly?

The phrase you used earlier (big receiver with great hands) essentially means a physical receiver.

[CRA]

What kind of receiver do you think he is, exactly?

The phrase you used earlier (big receiver with great hands) essentially means a physical receiver.

A big target. With great hands. Not much more.

That to me, doesn't imply he is physical. Steve Smith is just as physical as Moose ever was.

I wish Jarrett was. He isn't. Another reason why he doesn't fit what Fox does. Fox knows he doesn't fit.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Fox isn't going to change things so Jarrett can fit.

This.

Damnit Fox, why can't we design an offense where the #2 WR isn't covered at all by a defender of any kind. Then Jarrett would be the sh*tttttttt!!!!!!!!111

[CRA]

This.

Damnit Fox, why can't we design an offense where the #2 WR isn't covered at all by a defender of any kind. Then Jarrett would be the sh*tttttttt!!!!!!!!111

when Carolina runs multiple Wr sets and the OL doesn't force the QB to immediately throw.....he seems to fit just fine. Plays to Jarrett's strengths. Offensive shouldn't be designed for him....but he has strengths that could be used if he is going to occupy a roster spot.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Well, in all fairness he has done exceedingly well catching passes against prevent defenses and gets wide open running 3 yard routes on 3rd and ten.

[carolinanimal]

Well, in all fairness he has done exceedingly well catching passes against prevent defenses and gets wide open running 3 yard routes on 3rd and ten.

what prevent defense did he play against? i didnt know you could play prevent and rush 5?

i am pretty sure he has a good number of 3rd down conversions. he must from all those balls we throw his way...oh wait, we dont.

i just dont get it. if he is as bad as you guys say he is he must be the worst nfl receiver ever in the nfl. i mean even the worst guys, charles rogers, mike williams, played more than jarrett. fox would have to be the stupidest coach ever to keep him, i mean the cut corey irvin a 3rd round pick from just a year ago. why not dj? there are only 2 possibilities then either john fox is a idiot or dj doesnt suck as bad as people think.

[carolinanimal]

when Carolina runs multiple Wr sets and the OL doesn't force the QB to immediately throw.....he seems to fit just fine. Plays to Jarrett's strengths. Offensive shouldn't be designed for him....but he has strengths that could be used if he is going to occupy a roster spot.

i think what you said about foxs philosophy is dead on. fox is stubborn. he wont change unless he is forced. jarret came into probably the worst situation for him. a defensive minded coach with a oldschool simplistic offensive system.

a real coach would find jarretts strengths and use him in packages that accentuate those strengths. ok, hes weak off the jam, lets put him into motion, hes slow, have him run slants short to intermediate routs. use him for what he is not for what we thought or think he should be.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

what prevent defense did he play against?.

TB last week.

i didnt know you could play prevent and rush 5?

Your secondary can play deep and just give WRs short to mid range receptions regardless of how many players you rush.

i am pretty sure he has a good number of 3rd down conversions.

oh yes, the chain moving 3rd down conversion machine that is Dwayne Jarrett lol

if he is as bad as you guys say he is he must be the worst nfl receiver ever in the nfl. i mean even the worst guys, charles rogers, mike williams, played more than jarrett.

I mean he's pretty bad but I don't know if he is THE worst in the entire NFL. Then again I don't drive around the country going from one teams TC to the next scouting the sorriest scrub WRs I can find.

fox would have to be the stupidest coach ever to keep him, i mean the cut corey irvin a 3rd round pick from just a year ago. why not dj? there are only 2 possibilities then either john fox is a idiot or dj doesnt suck as bad as people think.

I pretty much explained already why he's on the team. Not that I agree with it but it happens all around the NFL. Guys picked early in the draft get chance after chance no matter how bad they play or lazy they are.

Irvin got injured and never saw the field which will make GMs ignore draft position/potential faster than anything else. That and he's a late 3rd round pick in a weak draft (especially weak at DT) vs Jarrett whose an early 2nd round pick in a good draft with very good WRs drafted right before and after him. Plus what he did in college was infinitely better than what Irvin did so the perceived potential is completely different. Plus our DTs aren't as thin as our WR corps (they're bad but just not AS bad). Basically apples to oranges comparing their situations.

[PantherPhann]

"The youth movement in Carolina isn't only happening at quarterback"

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/21/panthers-do-everything-possible-to-avoid-starting-dwayne-jarrett/

Once again they have no clue what they're talking about over there in Noo Yawk

How old is Jarrett vs other WRs?

Fox is really scrambling for plays as he gives up on not starting rookies. There must be something about Jarrett that he doesn't like, kinda like why he never wanted to start Moore. But, from what I've seen of Jarrett, he's caught the majority of the balls thrown to him and I think that he has the second best hands on the team behind Steve Smith, although Rosario and Barndige is close (and yeah I know I spelled his name wrong). I say give Jarrett a chance in front of the world, for him to show what he can do.