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Trading Williams a good thing?


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I say yes.

Now, before proceeding, let me say this: I'm currently doubtful that it will happen and if it does happen I'll bitch and moan with the best of them. Ok, moving on...

There's obvious cons to losing D-Will. He's a huge percentage of the offense, a legitimately talented running back, and just a swell guy to support in general. I doubt the downside needs to be discussed in detail, because any Panther fan that doesn't understand the downside...well, I hope you enjoyed your three year coma, welcome to 2010, we suck.

But what about the upside? First, we could probably get a pick or two to make up for the losses in bad draft day trades of days past. Also, we might be able to plug in a new, more experienced player into one of our areas of need to help with development of younger players. And, let's face it, a player trade at this point would at least be entertaining for us huddled masses.

Is there another upside though? Because weighing those pros and cons evenly, I'd have to say that the trade would be a moronic idea. So, I thought to myself "Self, why would they do something that is so obviously stupid on the surface?" The first answer I came up with is that this move would just be par for the course as far as stupid moves this season are concerned. The second answer I came up with is Mike Goodson.

Goodson is showing a lot of promise in his time on field this year. The kind of promise that a lot of us were hoping for last year when we drafted him. It's pretty clear that he brings something new to the offense that simply didn't add into the equation before. With the obvious emphasis on rebuilding the passing game this year, however, Goodson's role becomes even more apparent and needed. Williams and Stewart have average recieving abilities out of the backfield, where Goodson excels at it (comparatively). That kind of x-factor in a passing game is quite desirable. Developing it alongside a new QB and a mostly new recieving corps could pay off amazing dividends down the road. So long as we're trying to accomodate two top tier running backs, the reps aren't there to develop that kind of dynamic.

So, IF the Williams trade does happen, THEN that will be the final signal to me that a change in philosophy is in the works (and that change would probably include an overhaul of the coaching staff). I can see the upside to it all, and in the long term I think it'll be well worth it. In the short term, it'll really piss me off. But in all reality, the short term looks pretty bleak anyway so all we have to go on is the long term.

At least, that's how I'm rationalizing it in my head. Yay team.

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Why would we trade the guy who is far and away one of the best talents on our team, not to mention the best RB a long shot?

People are stupid.

Absolutely, completely, stupid.

Heck, if anyone, trade Stew, whose spent the entire season in the backfield auditioning for Dancing for the Stars.

I went to the game yesterday with a friend of mine who knows next to nothing about NFL football.

He kept telling me we were stupid for continuing to pull number 34 out.

That guy seems amazing, he said, and we keep pulling him out for number 28 who isn't doing anything.

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Why would we trade the guy who is far and away one of the best talents on our team, not to mention the best RB a long shot?

People are stupid.

Absolutely, completely, stupid.

Heck, if anyone, trade Stew, whose spent the entire season in the backfield auditioning for Dancing for the Stars.

I went to the game yesterday with a friend of mine who knows next to nothing about NFL football.

He kept telling me we were stupid for continuing to pull number 34 out.

That guy seems amazing, he said, and we keep pulling him out for number 28 who isn't doing anything.

We would trade him because he is the one being rumored to be traded to Green Bay. I'm just going with what I've been hearing here.

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We would trade him because he is the one being rumored to be traded to Green Bay. I'm just going with what I've been hearing here.

Except there's no validity to the rumors.

Just a fan with some connections trying to get the rumor mill turning.

They held no weight.

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Because that's just right now and right now, you're terrible?

im terrible but you have no answer for what i just said.dont be a dick bc i didnt agree with you.and if we only have 20 o plays than dwill should get at least 15+ touches go look at fox record when he doesnt give the ball to the rb.it sucks therefore muting your idea of trading dwill.

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im terrible but you have no answer for what i just said.dont be a dick bc i didnt agree with you.and if we only have 20 o plays than dwill should get at least 15+ touches go look at fox record when he doesnt give the ball to the rb.it sucks therefore muting your idea of trading dwill.

"Why would you do that when it's your bnb?"

"Because right now, you're terrible?"

"I may be terrible, but you don't need to be a dick."

Follow that for me.

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im terrible but you have no answer for what i just said.dont be a dick bc i didnt agree with you.and if we only have 20 o plays than dwill should get at least 15+ touches go look at fox record when he doesnt give the ball to the rb.it sucks therefore muting your idea of trading dwill.

There seems to be this terrible myth going around about how the Panthers have changed their philosophy towards offense and that we aren't running the ball anymore which seems to be based solely on rushing attempts.

So let me break it down for you, although there has been a little bit of a drop it's not dramatic and the fact is most of it can be attributed to having played from behind for the majority of the season.

So here it is, total plays vs running plays and the running play percentage for the past two years and the SMALL SAMPLE SIZE of this year.

2008

Total Plays, Running Plays, Running %

938 504 53.7

2009

1023 525 51.3

2010

234 104 44

Yesterdays game we ran 23 of our 47 plays on the day for an average of right at 49% which is on par for the course and it was our closest game yet which allowed us to stay in our game plan.

The fact of the matter is that we have been forced out of our game plan by having been dominated on the time of possession. There is no change of philosophy and the people who seem to think so are just to lazy to look up the facts.

When we become successful at our gameplan we will have more total plays which will in turn boost the numbers of carries. That hasn't happened yet.

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