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THE TIME TO WIN IT ALL WAS NOW! Window of opportunity is closing....

charlottenian

By charlottenian,
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If your going to go on and try to say if our defense was of Baltimore or Pittsburgh caliber having a QB like Jake would be acceptable, then absolutely.

That's the real problem. We have so much money invested in defense, and we're supposed to hang our hat there.

But its just not getting the job done. We hold opponents to less than 14 points this season, and we're probably still playing right now.

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Look at Warner's stats when he was 33

10 games played 2054yards 6tds 4ints 12fumbles

Look at Jake Delhomme's stats at 33 this past season

16 games played 3288yards 17tds(2 rushing) 12ints 5 fumbles

Look at the 2 years after that.

Warner: 27 TDs, 17 INTs, QB Rate: 89.8

30 TDs, 14 INTs, QB Rate: 96.9

Warner has been in 3 Super Bowls, winning 1 of them (we'll find out if he wins another this year). He also has two 1st team All-Pros.

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That's the real problem. We have so much money invested in defense, and we're supposed to hang our hat there.

But its just not getting the job done. We hold opponents to less than 14 points this season, and we're probably still playing right now.

Yea I know, and it is almost embarrassing, I want the defense fixed too.

I would rather have a top 5 defense(all statistics) than a top 5 QB.

At the same time, it shouldn't be too much to ask for a good QB. I mean we haven't exactly tried to land ourselves a top quality QB.

Through the years, our defense has seen a lot of field time due to the offense going 3 and out.(yes we are the 3 and out kings).

Imagine how good our defense may be(even as it was this or last year) if our offense converted consistently. That is where I think the upgraded QB would help.

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Look at the 2 years after that.

Warner: 27 TDs, 17 INTs, QB Rate: 89.8

30 TDs, 14 INTs, QB Rate: 96.9

Warner has been in 3 Super Bowls, winning 1 of them (we'll find out if he wins another this year). He also has two 1st team All-Pros.

Look at the 5 years from 2002-2006 Warner had a combined 27tds 30ints and 43fumbles.

Warner has really only had 4 good years his entire career and each of those years its been the team system that has made him look good.

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Look at the 5 years from 2002-2006 Warner had a combined 27tds 30ints and 43fumbles.

Warner has really only had 4 good years his entire career and each year its the team system that has made him look good.

...and Jake has always been a product of the guys around him. This year it didn't even matter about the guys around him 'cause he reach a whole nother level of suckitude. He had the best group of guys around him this year that he's ever had in his career, yet still continued to suck.

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