Cheating

[mountainpantherfan]

Cheating is like many other things in life; it's only acceptable when everyone else does it.

[Mr. Scot]

Cheating is like many other things in life; it's only acceptable when everyone else does it.

Not sure that came out like you meant it :sosp:

[bleys]

I'm not, nor do I believe in the grey area philosophy. The focus should be to play withing the established rules 100 % of the time. Willingly acting outside the rules should get you removed from the field. PERIOD.

Hey there.. feel free to meet a good point..

Ha you guys are funny.

This is an exercise in semantics. "Cheating" is much too broad of a term and implies some sort of morality argument. What we are discussing here is simple cost benefit.

Is a helmet to helmet hit "cheating?"

Is a holding call "cheating?"

Is filming the other team's practice "cheating?"

Is steroid use "cheating?"

No these are all rules infractions with various punishments.

Do some teams encourage dirty hits? Do some guys poke you in the eyes in the scrum? Do some guys push off because they think they can get away with it?

There is a fine balance of what you can and can't do in the NFL and it is defined by NFL rules. I reject any arguments of "cheating is wrong" because its all cheating. Where you happen to draw the line is arbitrary, subjective and useless.

where's my soapbox.. I want to act superior and poke you all in the chest by pretending the world is only painted in black and white..

[Stroupe-a-loop]

It's football. At a certain point, it really is just organized shoving. Let's not get all Machiavellian about it or invoke Nietze.

[Happy Panther]

I think the huddle is on the up and up when we have Machiavelli and Nietzsche referenced in the same post

[Sandy Claws]

Hey there.. feel free to meet a good point..

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I've met quite a few, just not in anything that you have posted.

[bleys]

I've met quite a few, just not in anything that you have posted.

Zing!

[mountainpantherfan]

Not sure that came out like you meant it :sosp:

Not sure, but I think so.

Cheating can be acceptable. A great example is in the NBA. Fouling another player to prevent him from scoring an easy basket or to stop the clock is univerally seen as a part of the game and is by no means seen as cheating. However, the act of committing a foul is by rule cheating or breaking the rules.

In the NFL, there are tampering rules. Every year, teams sign players to multi-year contracts for millions of dollars at 12:01am on the first day of free agency. That's cheating but nothing every comes of it because every team in the league does it. However, some teams do get hit with tampering charges. Why, because they are going outside the lines what how the rest of the league cheats.

Life is the same way. Let a highschool kid in the 90's wear a trucker cap he got from the gas station and he would have been exiled from his group of friends. Once Aston Kutcher wore one on Punk'd, everyone starts wearing them and it becomes totally acceptable.

Cheating is apart of sports, like it or not. It all comes down to wear the mass tends to go, not wear the line is in the sand.

[bleys]

Not sure, but I think so.

Cheating can be acceptable. A great example is in the NBA. Fouling another player to prevent him from scoring an easy basket or to stop the clock is univerally seen as a part of the game and is by no means seen as cheating. However, the act of committing a foul is by rule cheating or breaking the rules.

In the NFL, there are tampering rules. Every year, teams sign players to multi-year contracts for millions of dollars at 12:01am on the first day of free agency. That's cheating but nothing every comes of it because every team in the league does it. However, some teams do get hit with tampering charges. Why, because they are going outside the lines what how the rest of the league cheats.

Life is the same way. Let a highschool kid in the 90's wear a trucker cap he got from the gas station and he would have been exiled from his group of friends. Once Aston Kutcher wore one on Punk'd, everyone starts wearing them and it becomes totally acceptable.

Cheating is apart of sports, like it or not. It all comes down to wear the mass tends to go, not wear the line is in the sand.

yep..

most rules are formed by teams looking for an edge.. that's why there is a competition committee who regulates new issues on the field.. the greats are out there looking for ways to bend technicalities..

[Panthers128]

I see no problem with cheating as long as you avoid getting caught