One thing i think A.J. Green fans don't realize

[SorthNarolina]

OMGZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, you AJ GREEN fans are BOTTLENECKING the john fox SYSTEM!!11111111!

this thread is pointless unless you were going to say we take a TE at #1..

if that was the case, we need to have a much tougher discussion on what is sanity and what that looks like...

so the #1 pick is our only option for bringing in players?

You do know we have other picks right?

And a lot of cap room.

Sarcasm still needs to make sense.

[rayzor]

i keep thinking this...keary colbert was great his rookie year, far more impressive than gettis or lafell, and then what happened?

we might luck out with one of these two guys not sucking later on, but i seriously doubt that both guys will be able to continue to play as good or better than they did this past year.

steve smith might have a few more years of being productive, but how often is the guy injured? how excited is the coaching staff going to be about having a grumpy old man hanging around in smith, regardless of how good he is? he could be traded, don't rule that out. at best he only has a few years left in him playing at a high level. with him and the two young guys at receiver all being pretty big question marks, how can we not want to try and make sure we have plenty of talent at WR going forward. we need to give us plenty of options and green is as safe as they come in the draft. the guy will be a stud. for a team that wants to be a pass heavy team, why would you not want as many options as possible to make sure you have the best bunch of weapons for whatever QB we have?

we can and should bring in another WR (or two) as well as another pass catching TE.

[bleys]

so the #1 pick is our only option for bringing in players?

You do know we have other picks right?

And a lot of cap room.

Sarcasm still needs to make sense.

I have never said AJ Green is the only pick that makes sense.. so I have never said we couldn't get a WR later in the draft..

you all get so far off the beaten path in discussions you don't pay attention to poo..

this topic is beyond exhausted..

you can pick up a DT in FA.. Giants have invested a lot of money into their DLine, if we go for Cofield, they won't be able to out match us..

So if I were a coach, I would sign AJ Green because his scouting report has the biggest ceiling, rather than thinking a FA WR won't get signed and we have a chance.. Most WR FA's are the main staple of their WR corp.. I don't see many options there..

besides, I would rather have a rookie WR who will be around for 5-7 years and perhaps much longer than to invest in an older receiver.. he wants to play in Carolina, and has good character (because he signed a jersey and sold it doesn't mean much to me, esp compared to the FA WR's available you'll have to worry about)

so, I hope my sarcasm had made sense, because if you want me to break down what I would do, it'll make much more sense than you.. of course, it can't make too much sense, because we are just every day people on a forum who cannot predict the future..

what I do know is a WR will have a bigger TEAM impact than a DT.. how? well I just explained above.. but you can scheme around a DT as long as you have a good one, you can't make up for a huge threat at WR (assuming he turns out as great as Fairley supposively will)

[SorthNarolina]

I didn't make this topic about drafting Fairley I'd rather draft Green than Fairley. If people didn't try to read into things so much just so they have an excuse to use senseless sarcasm then maybe the topic would be more productive.

I don't think people who want to draft Green are totally out the mindset that we are still a Fox football team.

TE's isn't an afterthought anymore, WR doesn't have to carry 100% of the receiving load anymore. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not on any players bandwagon and if people would quit assuming I'm as fanatical as they are about prospects that'd be nice.

[rayzor]

I didn't make this topic about drafting Fairley I'd rather draft Green than Fairley. If people didn't try to read into things so much just so they have an excuse to use senseless sarcasm then maybe the topic would be more productive.

I don't think people who want to draft Green are totally out the mindset that we are still a Fox football team.

TE's isn't an afterthought anymore, WR doesn't have to carry 100% of the receiving load anymore. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not on any players bandwagon and if people would quit assuming I'm as fanatical as they are about prospects that'd be nice.

why can't we try to get both the best WR and best TE in the draft? why does it have to be one or the other?

[SorthNarolina]

I have never said AJ Green is the only pick that makes sense.. so I have never said we couldn't get a WR later in the draft..

Alright so we can get Wide receivers but not a Tight End later in the draft? If somebody wants a tight end to shoulder some of the load we need to draft him at #1?

[tondi]

I don't have a problem adding a TE this offseason. However, I am unconvinced that a 3rd round, or later, pick will come in here and solve our TE issues. I would prefer we try to pick up a FA or just go with what we have for a season to assess their value in the new system. We have three middle round TE's currently, none of whom have really shined for us, so why do we think another middle round TE will come in here and solve our problems? This appears to be a weak TE group this year so why force the issue by drafting someone that won't really make any difference just so we can claim to be "addressing the issue"? I would rather we handle other needs in the draft.

[bleys]

I didn't make this topic about drafting Fairley I'd rather draft Green than Fairley. If people didn't try to read into things so much just so they have an excuse to use senseless sarcasm then maybe the topic would be more productive.

I don't think people who want to draft Green are totally out the mindset that we are still a Fox football team.

TE's isn't an afterthought anymore, WR doesn't have to carry 100% of the receiving load anymore. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not on any players bandwagon and if people would quit assuming I'm as fanatical as they are about prospects that'd be nice.

this topic has been exhausted..

I fully agree with you, a dominant TE in the passing game is a must have.. how that has anything to do with Green is where people are getting side tracked..

where you went wrong was calling out AJ Green fans.. as if AJ Green has anything to do with needing a TE..

Grabbing AJ Green has no impact on the TE position.. so it's easy to group this thread into something you may not have meant it to be..

Alright so we can get Wide receivers but not a Tight End later in the draft? If somebody wants a tight end to shoulder some of the load we need to draft him at #1?

I have no idea what you just said... and where did you get that information?

[SorthNarolina]

why can't we try to get both the best WR and best TE in the draft? why does it have to be one or the other?

we could if they wanted to go heavy offensively or BPA. No prob if it's BPA. Or if they want to trade Smith or let his contract run out.

Right now I think QB, DT, and TE are the most unstable positions on the team CB has some holes but i feel like it's not a disaster zone. WR has a lot invested into it.

I wouldn't have any problem drafting green no matter what happened. But I'm not sure if people realize a Tight End can carry some of the load. Tight Ends have barely taken any pressure off of the WRs for years and I don't think people are used to it. Having a good pass catching TE would do all the same things a decent WR would do along with giving the offense more balance.

[blackcatgrowl]

So we should draft a TE no. 1 overall.

Yeah, that's what I got out of the OP.

If we draft a TE #1 overall, I will boycott the Panthers until Marty Hurney is fired or let go.

[bleys]

we could if they wanted to go heavy offensively or BPA. No prob if it's BPA. Or if they want to trade Smith or let his contract run out.

Right now I think QB, DT, and TE are the most unstable positions on the team CB has some holes but i feel like it's not a disaster zone. WR has a lot invested into it.

I wouldn't have any problem drafting green no matter what happened. But I'm not sure if people realize a Tight End can carry some of the load. Tight Ends have barely taken any pressure off of the WRs for years and I don't think people are used to it. Having a good pass catching TE would do all the same things a decent WR would do along with giving the offense more balance.

WR has 2 draft picks invested into it, and a 3rd which was a joke.. hardly a lot invested except for the joke.. and hardly an argument can be made about Edwards shoring up the WR corp..

DT, go get Cofield.. DT has been fixed.. any questions about how it's not fixed?

QB won't be fixed this year, unless we draft someone at #1, in which case, I'm cool with that.. I mean, the scouting department is very good and I hope they saw something valuable..

TE, go FA or later in the draft, to say we draft a TE in the 1st round is crazy.. why? because none are 1st round talented..

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from this point forward, I'm curious how anyone still comes out and says "BUT DT IZ A MUST NEEEDZ!!11!1"

yeah, no poo, I just gave you better solution...

[SorthNarolina]

this topic has been exhausted..

I fully agree with you, a dominant TE in the passing game is a must have.. how that has anything to do with Green is where people are getting side tracked..

where you went wrong was calling out AJ Green fans.. as if AJ Green has anything to do with needing a TE..

Grabbing AJ Green has no impact on the TE position.. so it's easy to group this thread into something you may not have meant it to be..

I have no idea what you just said... and where did you get that information?

You said the thread makes no sense unless we draft a TE at #1 as if that's the only means of grabbing a TE.

[bleys]

You said the thread makes no sense unless we draft a TE at #1 as if that's the only means of grabbing a TE.

no, what I meant was if we take AJ Green it'll be at #1, and since there are no TE prospects worth the #1 pick or even in the 1st round, that I'm not sure how this thread is relevant to AJ Green fans..

[rayzor]

we could if they wanted to go heavy offensively or BPA. No prob if it's BPA. Or if they want to trade Smith or let his contract run out.

Right now I think QB, DT, and TE are the most unstable positions on the team CB has some holes but i feel like it's not a disaster zone. WR has a lot invested into it.

I wouldn't have any problem drafting green no matter what happened. But I'm not sure if people realize a Tight End can carry some of the load. Tight Ends have barely taken any pressure off of the WRs for years and I don't think people are used to it. Having a good pass catching TE would do all the same things a decent WR would do along with giving the offense more balance.

QB really shouldn't be addressed in the draft this year (unless we use a 3rd or later round pick on a project). i've said it before that we need to get a younger vet QB brought in to compete for the actual full-time job. in addition to that, we need to give the QB as many weapons as possible to succeed and that includes getting him as many quality targets as possible. WR might not be exactly unstable, but it is far from being a for sure strong point. i would like the WR to be as strong as the RB corps is now. imo, it can happen without sacrificing much at all at other positions.