Bryce is elite at deep throws

[strato]

58 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

That's the qualification. It hasn't been changed for the sake of this argument.  

You ignored the rest of my comment, conveniently. That way you don’t have to acknowledge it. That’s fine. 

When you let 20 yards into such a category, there isn’t anything left.

The guy that can zip on in there at 40 where Bryce has to float in it, is basically discounted 50%. 
 

Here it is… you love Bryce. If he was the guy that could do a 40 yard rope, you would support the opposite position. That’s what this is. Not an honest real evaluation of talent and ability, but a self serving strategic debate that will shamelessly exploit any loophole that suits the agenda.  

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[strato]

48 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

In the history of the NFL. OR even just this season,  what is then% of completions of passes that travel 40 yards in the air, regardless of QB? 

If you dont know, i dont understand why you're arguing this. 

And I don’t understand why you call on me to produce strawman  stats. If you have a point, which stats cannot make in relation to my statement in the first place, put them up. 
Again, if a guy can throw 40 yards on a rope, and another guy 20,  and they count the SAME… who is getting discounted? Short changed? 
Need a hint? 

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[Smohn Jith]

4 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Right now Bryce, Stroud is living off that rookie season

Stroud has been to the playoffs twice...

[pantherclaw]

46 minutes ago, strato said:

You ignored the rest of my comment, conveniently. That way you don’t have to acknowledge it. That’s fine. 

When you let 20 yards into such a category, there isn’t anything left.

The guy that can zip on in there at 40 where Bryce has to float in it, is basically discounted 50%. 
 

Here it is… you love Bryce. If he was the guy that could do a 40 yard rope, you would support the opposite position. That’s what this is. Not an honest real evaluation of talent and ability, but a self serving strategic debate that will shamelessly exploit any loophole that suits the agenda.  

Your wrong. I dont love Bryce.  Until you can speak of him without being biased one way or another, there is zero point taking about him to you, or anyone else. Not all QBs are the same. In fact, very few are just alike.   I didn't ignore anything.  It just taking to you about something your raised in a negative way, is like bashing my hand with a hammer.  

[pantherclaw]

42 minutes ago, strato said:

And I don’t understand why you call on me to produce strawman  stats. If you have a point, which stats cannot make in relation to my statement in the first place, put them up. 
Again, if a guy can throw 40 yards on a rope, and another guy 20,  and they count the SAME… who is getting discounted? Short changed? 
Need a hint? 

I knew you'd be dismissive. 

[pantherclaw]

I don't love Bryce Young. 

I DO understand his abilities as a QB. I dont expect him to do things that are beyond that. I also dont hold it against him.  The ability to throw 40 yards in with the velocity to take your receivers hands off, doesn't have the impact on the game as people think it does.  I think it's a pretty silly thing to even attempt to debate, when the ones crying about it doesn't add context.  

Bryce can and does throw deep.  His last TD to T-Mac was a thing of beauty,   and the ball placement was incredible,  especially for the distance of the throw. 

I get it y'all want to talk all day about his physical limitations, rather than look at what he does, and does well.  We wouldn't be playing meaningful football in December without him.  That is a fact. 

Bryce doesn't fit the mold of my type of QB, but I don't hold that against him. That is beyond stupid.  

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[GoobyPls]

1 hour ago, Smohn Jith said:

Stroud has been to the playoffs twice...

And Dilfer won a SB, idc.

Almost impossible to miss the playoffs when you have that good of a defense