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[strato]

I would feel warm inside if they actually addressed the QB position. 
 

At the same time let’s be realistic, they are starting Bryce. Spending too much draft capital on a backup can get in line behind more pressing needs. 
 

 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, strato said:

I would feel warm inside if they actually addressed the QB position. 
 

At the same time let’s be realistic, they are starting Bryce. Spending too much draft capital on a backup can get in line behind more pressing needs. 
 

 

Well there will be about 5 or 6 vet qb's available in FA this year according to Shefter. He thinks Tau and Murray will be among them. Granted neither will be a threat to unseat Young unfortunately. He goes so far as to say they all will be cheap to acquire. 

[strato]

8 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Well there will be about 5 or 6 vet qb's available in FA this year according to Shefter. He thinks Tau and Murray will be among them. Granted neither will be a threat to unseat Young unfortunately. He goes so far as to say they all will be cheap to acquire. 

My radar is up on Tua if released because Bevell was just there. I am not rooting for it, just observing. 

I see no path for Murray and I am not sure I want there to be. 
 

call me crazy but Levis still intrigues me. The big problem with him was the back breaking totally boneheaded play, after showing pretty well for 3 quarters. He has size, mobility, and a great arm. 

If he could be broken of that you might have something. Plus we have become pretty adept at hiding flaws. I am not thinking he is getting that 5th year picked up lol. He could be had cheap. Maybe even in a player swap. 

 

[Jon Snow]

6 minutes ago, strato said:

My radar is up on Tua if released because Bevell was just there. I am not rooting for it, just observing. 

I see no path for Murray and I am not sure I want there to be. 
 

call me crazy but Levis still intrigues me. The big problem with him was the back breaking totally boneheaded play, after showing pretty well for 3 quarters. He has size, mobility, and a great arm. 

If he could be broken of that you might have something. Plus we have become pretty adept at hiding flaws. I am not thinking he is getting that 5th year picked up lol. He could be had cheap. Maybe even in a player swap. 

 

Its going to be interesting who the younger backup is brought in. I have not looked at the full list of FA's are yet because the official cuts have not been made. But Morgan knows he has to do something about it.

[strato]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Its going to be interesting who the younger backup is brought in. I have not looked at the full list of FA's are yet because the official cuts have not been made. But Morgan knows he has to do something about it.

Yeah I haven’t looked deeply at it either. There isn’t much in the way of obvious diamonds in the rough among the usual listed suspects. 
Past Mac Jones and Daniel Jones, a bunch of meh.

 

And I am not in on either. Daniel Jones was gonna be a bargain last year. 

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[Jon Snow]

Just now, strato said:

Yeah I haven’t looked deeply at it either. There isn’t much in the way of obvious diamonds in the rough among the usual listed suspects. 
Past Mac Jones and Daniel Jones, a bunch of meh. 

Don't forget Willis. I'm going to hold out hope that we get an actual backup dammit so let me dream.

[strato]

Well, I have counted him out. He is out of our financial league.
 

We are not in the mode of overtly challenging Bryce and he is going to, at the minimum, get assurances of competing for the starting job. And more money than what I think we have in mind. 
 

Would I personally do it and have an open competition? Been advocating for that since Bryce came here. He never had to beat anyone out, and talking about my code in the the other thread? I like having a code for starting jobs too. Competition. 
edit: I am sure there are other suitable potential destinations but Minnesota stands out to me as a good spot for him. Same division, possibly hot seat coach due to QB questions, good roster overall. 

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[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, strato said:

Well, I have counted him out. He is out of our financial league.
 

We are not in the mode of overtly challenging Bryce and he is going to, at the minimum, get assurances of competing for the starting job. And more money than what I think we have in mind. 
 

Would I personally do it and have an open competition? Been advocating for that since Bryce came here. He never had to beat anyone out, and talking about my code in the the other thread? I like having a code for starting jobs too. Competition. 

I wouldn't make it an open competition. He's the emergency qb. He has to learn the system by the way. Now if somewhere down the road Young gets hurt or benched it's his job to earn and keep. I would prefer Young be benched and not hurt obviously. 

[strato]

10 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I wouldn't make it an open competition. He's the emergency qb. He has to learn the system by the way. Now if somewhere down the road Young gets hurt or benched it's his job to earn and keep. I would prefer Young be benched and not hurt obviously. 

Well, we’ve been, or I should say Bryce has been, real lucky with the injury thing. We had better put something behind him. 
 

Edit: also, I guess my point was WIllis will be able to get, at minimum, assurances of an open competition. I don’t think he needs to settle for less. 

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[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, strato said:

Well, we’ve been, or I should say Bryce has been, real lucky with the injury thing. We had better put something behind him. 
 

Edit: also, I guess my point was WIllis will be able to get, at minimum, assurances of an open competition. I don’t think he needs to settle for less. 

I doubt he will with all the vets projected to hit the streets. He will be fighting for a backup role somewhere. Ironically Carolina is probably the best place to be if you're looking for a chance to start. Young is not on sound footing and has been benched once already. He's got this year to earn his franchise extension and I wouldn't count on him doing it. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

35 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I wouldn't make it an open competition. He's the emergency qb. He has to learn the system by the way. Now if somewhere down the road Young gets hurt or benched it's his job to earn and keep. I would prefer Young be benched and not hurt obviously. 

I want someone who can push Young. Camp doesn't need to be an open competition, but it doesn't need to be a closed one either. If another QB comes in and blows the doors off camp and betters Young, he deserves a chance to be the starting QB. We shouldn't avoid picking up another QB because we're afraid he might unseat our number 1 overall. Always look to improve. 

[strato]

9 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I want someone who can push Young. Camp doesn't need to be an open competition, but it doesn't need to be a closed one either. If another QB comes in and blows the doors off camp and betters Young, he deserves a chance to be the starting QB. We shouldn't avoid picking up another QB because we're afraid he might unseat our number 1 overall. Always look to improve. 

That would be the definition of pushing Young. Which I have thought we have needed to do since day one. I wanted him to have to beat someone out.
Even a token guy, just beat someone out and give the appearance you earned the job. 

[strato]

35 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I doubt he will with all the vets projected to hit the streets. He will be fighting for a backup role somewhere. Ironically Carolina is probably the best place to be if you're looking for a chance to start. Young is not on sound footing and has been benched once already. He's got this year to earn his franchise extension and I wouldn't count on him doing it. 

Well, we will see. I would almost guarantee he will not be signing with the Panthers. Opinion. 
 

For discussion, what impressive vets? Cousins? Rodgers? People would have to trade for Mac Jones. 

Daniel Jones… Achilles? That is a scary thing.  

I read some speculation on Stroud maybe moving on because Houston loves their backup. Long shot.

Bears holding onto Bagent, Johnson loves him. 

Tua for a starting job somewhere? I’d rather try Willis. 
 

Surely I have missed a couple of guys. There is talk about David Carr coming back. 

 

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[SmokinwithWilly]

25 minutes ago, strato said:

That would be the definition of pushing Young. Which I have thought we have needed to do since day one. I wanted him to have to beat someone out.
Even a token guy, just beat someone out and give the appearance you earned the job. 

Im not even after a token guy at this point. Bryce is 1a, <insert name> is 1b. We don't have a definitive starting QB for the next 5 years. We need to be using all available QB roster spots to look. 2 I would like to see are Howell and Levis if he becomes available. Both have the tools, just make boneheaded mistakes. The same can be said of Darnold and he just got a ring as the starting QB that limited bone headed mistakes. If they don't work out, no harm done. We gave them an opportunity, and it didn't work out.

I'm out on guys like Tua, Murray and Cousins. We know what they are and they're not the future. It's time to start getting aggressive about solving our QB problem and not just by throwing picks to move up and pray. Once we have our franchise guy for the next 5 years, then we can ease off the search. Until then, hammer down.