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Mayock Warming to Cam Newton

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You guys are really talking in circles roght now. I gurantee you Auburn doesn't beat Alabam w/o the defensive effort in the second half. I also guarantee you auburn does not beat Arkansas w/o Cam Newton. Auburns defensive was average at best but had a tendency to step up in big moments. But if you win a NC at some point your defense won you a game or two and your offense won you a game or two. Without their defense Oregon doesn't beat Cal either.

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You guys are really talking in circles roght now. I gurantee you Auburn doesn't beat Alabam w/o the defensive effort in the second half. I also guarantee you auburn does not beat Arkansas w/o Cam Newton. Auburns defensive was average at best but had a tendency to step up in big moments. But if you win a NC at some point your defense won you a game or two and your offense won you a game or two. Without their defense Oregon doesn't beat Cal either.

The entire point was that Cam isn't doing all of this alone, that's all. You're completely right, Auburn's season was a *team effort.*

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The entire point was that Cam isn't doing all of this alone, that's all. You're completely right, Auburn's season was a *team effort.*

He didn't do all of it on the offensive side but 50 tds is doing a lot of it. But any NC teams is going to have to have a team effort. I would be interested to see where Auburns defense ranks in modern national championship teams. 53 is REALLY low for a NC team.

But like you and I both said the defense stepped up in big moments.

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No doubt. I have now watched every Auburn game and k can tell you in about 4 games the defensive looked like the worst in the SEC for three quarters.... and then the best in college football history in the fourth. They wrere not very good but incredibly clutch.

Maybe the boosters paid double for 4th quarter splash plays. :lol:

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Do you think Newton was the reason Auburn won the championship game? No. It was the Auburn Defense. Newton didn't show a lot in the championship game, he looked more like a game manager than anything. Newton is a system QB that relies on his speed and deep ball.

It's obvious by your comment, that the NC game is the only game you saw Newton play.

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The entire point was that Cam isn't doing all of this alone, that's all. You're completely right, Auburn's season was a *team effort.*

Football is a total team sport, so no Cam didn't do it alone. Question: Does Auburn win the NC with Blaine Gabbert as their QB? Better yet do they win the SEC with Gabbert as their QB? I think we all know the answer to both!

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Where did you get that? I didn't hear him say a single bad word about Locker, nothing new anyway. What I got from that vid was that Cam's doing all the right things and Mayock thinks he's showing a commitment to the game, at least before he gets a big paycheck (note that Mayock isn't sure that this will happen, he just has questions about the kid).

I watched it live on NFL Network. This clip does not show the entire segment. He did say that Newton is doing everything right, but he also prefaces that he questions Newton's work ethic once he gets paid. He said that when he was arguing with Brian Baldinger. This is why Mayock only has Cam at #13 overall on his big board. He basically says that Cam Newton will go much higher in the draft than he, personally, is willing to take him.

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Mayock had to drop Locker down the board. I finally saw some of his pro day, and while he completed almost all of his passes, it looked pretty weak to me. The ball just doesn't come out of his hand with the same velocity and spin that you see with Newton and Gabbert. Many of his throws were of the shorter variety as well.

Combine Locker's pro day with what he did in games, and Mayock would have really looked foolish and stubborn to keep him in the second position.

Edit: And if he has Newton at 13 now, that's a big jump up. I think he was at 22 or 23 before.

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If you have listened to everything Mayock has said about Newton, it's pretty clear that the off the field questions are the only reason he doesn't have him at #1.

Actually, that's not true. Brian Baldinger asked him that specifically. Mayock said without off-field issues he would have Newton in the top 10.

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Actually, that's not true. Brian Baldinger asked him that specifically. Mayock said without off-field issues he would have Newton in the top 10.

That was for his big board, not his QB list. I'm talking about having him as the #1 QB ahead of Gabbert.

Honestly, I believe he would have Ponder ahead of Gabbert and Locker, if it wasn't for his injuries. That guy will have no problem running a WCO...if he can stay healthy.

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