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Sal Paolantonio says you can't be a phony infront of Rivera

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Sal Paolantonio on Mike & Mike this morning brought up an interesting point, he knows Ron Rivera well and says Cam couldn't get away being a phony with him, Rivera would sniff that out from 5 miles away. Also said you couldn't get away being a phony with JR and JR was very impressed with him.

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Rivera I believe... Not buying it for JR based in his track record in past drafts... He drafted Rae Carruth! Also drafted Jimmy Clausen... And for those of u who are thinking of bashing this post because "he doesn't draft players"... He owns the team. Anything that happens in his organization is a direct reflection upon himself.

With that said, he has a huge opportunity to draft Cam... I believe that you can't fool Rivera, it's hard to trick a Hispanic male, let alone we already know ge has a no BS policy..

This just makes us warmer and fuzzier on Cam. I like it!

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I am the firm believer you can't change the true character of a person, go read the story of the Scorpion and the Turtle. Cam was a thief and a cheat and even Mayock has issues believing this kid will try to be elite.

I don't like him, I don't like his lack of football intellegence, I don't like the system he was in, I don't like he couldn't beat out The Golden Calf of Bristol (and no he couldn't because he wasn't good enough. Myer would have put the best QB on the field). I don't like the fact he ran from Florida before getting booted etc.

He could be black, white, orange or purple with pink polkadots so that is a non issue. I don't want the kid as the face of this franchise and I feel a few years from now we will be right back where we are now with no Franchise QB.

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Rivera I believe... Not buying it for JR based in his track record in past drafts... He drafted Rae Carruth! Also drafted Jimmy Clausen... And for those of u who are thinking of bashing this post because "he doesn't draft players"... He owns the team. Anything that happens in his organization is a direct reflection upon himself.

With that said, he has a huge opportunity to draft Cam... I believe that you can't fool Rivera, it's hard to trick a Hispanic male, let alone we already know ge has a no BS policy..

This just makes us warmer and fuzzier on Cam. I like it!

Ridiculous statement. So JR was suppose to somehow know Carruth

was going to be murderer. Really? Also Jimmy Clausen isn't a good player, no one has ever accused him of being a con artist. Don't see what he has to do with the topic

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I am the firm believer you can't change the true character of a person, go read the story of the Scorpion and the Turtle. Cam was a thief and a cheat and even Mayock has issues believing this kid will try to be elite.

I don't like him, I don't like his lack of football intellegence, I don't like the system he was in, I don't like he couldn't beat out The Golden Calf of Bristol (and no he couldn't because he wasn't good enough. Myer would have put the best QB on the field). I don't like the fact he ran from Florida before getting booted etc.

He could be black, white, orange or purple with pink polkadots so that is a non issue. I don't want the kid as the face of this franchise and I feel a few years from now we will be right back where we are now with no Franchise QB.

People can change, I did stuff when I was 20 that I wouldn't dream of doing now. Have you ever stole something or cheating on something? I know I have, and overall I consider myself a pretty good person with flaws just like any human being (who is willing to admit it).

We'll never know if Cam would have beaten out The Golden Calf of Bristol given enough time, but I think it's unreasonable to condemn a freshman QB for not beating out the incumbent starter. Heck, Tom Brady couldn't beat out Brian Griese for the starting job at Michigan and that worked out pretty okay for the Pats, right?

Scorpions and turtles can't change their character because they are much less sophisticated than humans, people can change and 20 year olds do stupid stuff.

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I think Cam is a genuine person he is just being interviewed and filmed SO much that occasionally he has to go into autopilot and just give generic "phoney" answers. Imagine getting the attention he gets. It has to be pretty grueling.

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Ridiculous statement. So JR was suppose to somehow know Carruth

was going to be murderer. Really? Also Jimmy Clausen isn't a good player, no one has ever accused him of being a con artist. Don't see what he has to do with the topic

This is the typical argument with people that blindly hate Cam, you answer all the questions they have and then just manufacture new ones... LOL

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People can change, I did stuff when I was 20 that I wouldn't dream of doing now. Have you ever stole something or cheating on something? I know I have, and overall I consider myself a pretty good person with flaws just like any human being (who is willing to admit it).

Given enough time, I feel certain Cam would have beaten out The Golden Calf of Bristol for the starting job at Florida, but we'll never know. I think it's unreasonable to expect a freshman to walk in and immediately beat out the incumbent starter. Renner didn't beat out TJ Yates at UNC, does that mean Renner is a crappy QB?

Scorpions and turtles can't change their character because they are much less sophisticated than humans, people can change and 20 year olds do stupid stuff.

I just don't see this kid doing what it will take to be Elite. I mean when you pick a guy #1 overall that is the goal right? Not average, not good, not very good...Elite.

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I just don't see this kid doing what it will take to be Elite. I mean when you pick a guy #1 overall that is the goal right? Not average, not good, not very good...Elite.

So winning two national championships and the Heisman doesn't demonstrate that Cam is willing to do what it takes to be great???

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I haven't seen that much of Newton but when I do see him, I can't help but be reminded of the character played by The Rock (Dwayne Johnson) in the movie "The Game Plan". If you haven't seen the movie, it's about a partying, self-centered QB who plays selfishly thinking the game is all about him. Of course it being a Disney movie, everything works itself out but this isn't a Disney movie and I can't help but think Cam will always be about Cam.

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