Will Clausen really get a chance?

[CRA]

I'm a long term lurker on this site but figured I would chime in here. I would prefer if the qb job went to the guy who looks the best in camp, not whomever sells the most jersey's. If Jimmy has turned his game around(he was a rookie, the game moved too fast, it happens)give him the ball.

when is the last time a rookie QB played like crap and turned it around year 2?

[rayzor]

i'd hate to see the sophomore slump that comes off a year like last year.

[MaineManPanther]

you can let him compete for the 3rd QB spot and see if there is anything to work with......

letting Clausen be the competition for the starting spot based on what we know......is the definition of building a weak QB roster.

Because doing well with 3rd Qb reps isn't as good as a barometer as doing well with starting reps. Letting him do starting reps is a quicker and more effective way of judging his level of play. What negative can come from it?

[rayzor]

Because doing well with 3rd Qb reps isn't as good as a barometer as doing well with starting reps. Letting him do starting reps is a quicker and more effective way of judging his level of play. What negative can come from it?

taking snaps away from the QB who needs to be doing it considering he's the QB of the future.

give newton all the experience possible with the first team since the job is his long term. the sooner you get him ready to go out there, the better for the organization. seeing if clausen can do better than last year isn't nearly as important as letting newton get in all the snaps he can with the first team.

[RoadRunner]

I think back to Rivera's opening speach where he said Clausen never stood a chance because he had no time to develop, "he was thrown to the wolves". That makes me wonder how he will treat Cam in that respect. He said a vet will be brought in but he also said it could be FA or could already be on the team. So with that I'm sure Jimmy will get a fair shake at starting and depending on Moore's status with the team, Clausen could stand a very good chance at starting.

[MaineManPanther]

taking snaps away from the QB who needs to be doing it considering he's the QB of the future.

give newton all the experience possible with the first team since the job is his long term. the sooner you get him ready to go out there, the better for the organization. seeing if clausen can do better than last year isn't nearly as important as letting newton get in all the snaps he can with the first team.

Newton losing some training camp starting reps is not going to have a big effect on him or this team.

[sml1950]

As we know, last year was a disaster from A to Z. Part of that was throwing Clausen into the deep end and watching him drown week after week. Of course a patchwork line, rookie receivers, and disinterested coaching didn't give him much of a lifejacket. The professional analysis that I heard on Sirius/NFL network basically gave him good grades on standing in the pocket and throwing to the proper receiver in the progression. Unfortunately, he had the highest % of knocked down passes and ints., and the lowest % of tds and passer rating. I can't even remember a drive where he showed glimpses of top tier starter potential.

With Chud's new "stretch the defense" air attack, it would seem unlikely that Clausen's game would fit this scheme, even if the game slows down for him this year. If we sign Moore or a vet, i would't be surprised to see him get extra time during preseason to showcase him for a 4th or 5th pick.

[DaCityKats]

During those 10 games, Wharton was injured, Schwartz moved to RG and Williams to RT. The Rookie WRs improved-hard to do without a QB. Smith dropped more balls than his entire career combined. Third, fourth, and fifth string RBs played a large percentage of the time. His offensive coordinator was Jeff Davidson and, during the 10 games, "The QB Killer" Scherer was screwing up yet another talent. As the season progressed teams pinned their ears back because our offensive weapons were scrubs or rookies. In games Clausen started, the Panthers played Atlanta twice, Pittsburgh, New Orleans twice, and Tampa Bay. He was horrible at times, but he will be much better this season. He knows what to expect.

Folks, John Fox was furious over the Clausen pick. He was forced by Richardson to play him at the end of the season. JC was set up to fail by circumstance and through vendetta. Clausen is a kid. How would you perform? You think his confidence wasn't shattered?

bullshit. i know in the nfl you need talent and injuries are apart of the game go ask any team, but the excuses some guys make for him is tiredsome. when davidson would make a decent call jimmy still couldnt get the job done.

and if you have talent, your confidence would never get shattered but man the hell up. while your teammates rise up with you.and clausen made no one better around him.

[pantherclaw]

And many arm chair QBs think they know enough to dump a rookie QB before he has been seasoned to play in this league. Huge mistake letting him go for nothing. And Clausen sucked--your tense was wrong. Look at John ELway's rookie numbers. started 10 games, 47% completion percentage. More interceptions and lower QB rating than Clausen. Elway's coach was not a lame duck and his line was healthy. His WRs were veterans. Most Denver fans wanted him gone. Check the numbers. Few NFL QBs do much as rookies.

I'm not saying dump him. He's certainly the odd man out.

Cam is now the star, whether you want him or not. Moore is a more accomplished leader and qb. Pike has more upside than clausen. This doesn't even mention a veteran qb.

How many quarterbacks do you think the team will keep?

3 at the most.

Veteran, Newton, Moore.

The 2nd round pick that was invested with clausen isn't high enough to keep him on a team with a new head coach.

Even IF clausen does make the team this year, his value isn't going to magically improve unless he gets significant play time, and shows substantial improvement.

No team in the league will trade for clausen this year. They'd be fools to even offer a 6th rounder for him. No team will benefit from clausen being on their roster this year.

You want him, go start your own arena football team so you can employ him.

[LiQuiD]

I couldn't care less if Jimmy ever touches a football in a Carolina uniform ever again. At least not on a Sunday, Monday or Thursday.

[rayzor]

clausen gaining some training camp starting reps is not going to have a big effect on him or this team.

this is true as well.

it would take a lot of starting snaps for him to shake the stigma of last season and it's just not worth cutting into newton's development and getting him ready to start in finding out if clausen sucks or not so we can trade him.

we need to get newton as many snaps with the #1s as possible, esp. considering the shortened offseason. it's not just his grasp of the playbook we need to be concerned about. it's chemistry with the rest of the offense.

[CRA]

Because doing well with 3rd Qb reps isn't as good as a barometer as doing well with starting reps. Letting him do starting reps is a quicker and more effective way of judging his level of play. What negative can come from it?

giving a guy not worth reps to compete as starter isn't a good practice to build a solid roster. The reps Cam doesn't get with the starters needs to go to someone ready to drive the car temporarily in 2011.

Clausen got his starter reps last year.....he proved he is a long term project and not the type QB that needs to compete for a starting gig in 2011.

[CRA]

I think back to Rivera's opening speach where he said Clausen never stood a chance because he had no time to develop, "he was thrown to the wolves". That makes me wonder how he will treat Cam in that respect. He said a vet will be brought in but he also said it could be FA or could already be on the team. So with that I'm sure Jimmy will get a fair shake at starting and depending on Moore's status with the team, Clausen could stand a very good chance at starting.

coach talk defending a player.

Rivera has pretty much implied that he has no problems starting Cam week 1 if he looks the part.

Lots of QBs get thrown to the wolves....and they aren't expected to win as rookies. Clausen wasn't expected to. Clausen was expected to show reasons why he was drafted by the Panthers and what the team could look to build on in the future. All we found was a bunch of problems most seem to be unaware......with Clausen's play and drafting Cam there is no chance he starts.

[Jpjr]

giving a guy not worth reps to compete as starter isn't a good practice to build a solid roster. The reps Cam doesn't get with the starters needs to go to someone ready to drive the car temporarily in 2011.

Clausen got his starter reps last year.....he proved he is a long term project and not the type QB that needs to compete for a starting gig in 2011.

Cam should get the most reps as the emminent starter but what do you have against competition? Clausen is coming into this season in much better shape and fully recovered from a toe he couldn't plant on all last year. He will be competing against Matt Moore who is coming off a season ending shoulder injury. Who knows who will be better at this point? That's exactly what practice reps and/or preseason are for...