What are the players thinking?

[firstdayfan]

This was just tweeted by Dominic Foxsworth, who has been a big part of the players side of the CBA negotiations:

Dear Fans, All NFLPA work is being done by phone. So I'm still on the job while watch tv, hang with my daughter, and running later

This just pisses me off...this is one of the darkest times in professional football and he is sitting at home? When I work OT i don't get to see my kids...I have to freaking WORK!!! I don't understand who is advising them or if they are just playing this thing by the seat of their pants but if something isnt done by Wednesday of next week something is terribly wrong. In fact, I think the owners said they would pull the offer if it wasn't accepted by Wednesday.

Here's the one thing that I can't shake and no one seems to mention, the NFLPA's lockout insurance. Basically every player would be paid $200,000 for next year if there is no football. Think about that? If someone said you could make 200 grand by sitting at home and playing with your kids wouldn't you take that??? Is this where we are headed? It's the only reason I can think of that the players are holding out...they would rather sit at home and collect money while the owners lose millions of dollars in revenue. I think they are going to hold out until they get everything they want.

But as long as he gets to play with his daughter and watch tv we as fans shouldn't be upset...

[MHS831]

This was just tweeted by Dominic Foxsworth, who has been a big part of the players side of the CBA negotiations:

This just pisses me off...this is one of the darkest times in professional football and he is sitting at home? When I work OT i don't get to see my kids...I have to freaking WORK!!! I don't understand who is advising them or if they are just playing this thing by the seat of their pants but if something isnt done by Wednesday of next week something is terribly wrong. In fact, I think the owners said they would pull the offer if it wasn't accepted by Wednesday.

Here's the one thing that I can't shake and no one seems to mention, the NFLPA's lockout insurance. Basically every player would be paid $200,000 for next year if there is no football. Think about that? If someone said you could make 200 grand by sitting at home and playing with your kids wouldn't you take that??? Is this where we are headed? It's the only reason I can think of that the players are holding out...they would rather sit at home and collect money while the owners lose millions of dollars in revenue. I think they are going to hold out until they get everything they want.

But as long as he gets to play with his daughter and watch tv we as fans shouldn't be upset...

Remember how DeMaurice Smith positioned himself early on, calling the negotiations "War?" Then you have players' attorneys Kesslar and Quinn who seem hell bent on winning at all costs, even if it tears the league apart. These guys are who the players are listening to, the people who stand to profit most from a prolonged dispute. Smith now has agreed to a proposal in principle, so his militaristic tactics are backfiring a bit. He now has to SELL the plan he and Goodell forged to the players, whose attorneys (the same people who were thrown out of negotiations in June) are picking everything apart. They are leading players to go after the $300+ million the league saved last year. They are the same ones who knew getting Brady and co. to file a suit would complicate things. Decertification was a tactic, now the players--who dragged this thing out until late July--are blaming the owners for trying to get the season rolling in order to save preseason games--without them, the financials of the deal are invalid.

The players have legitimate points, but the fact that they were kept in pockets and released now reeks of lawyer tactics. Timing is important, and the lawyers knew that these concerns would be dismissed as minor and insignificant in April, but suddenly become deal breakers in July. And the players blame the owners for this? I am sure the owners played a few games themselves, but you do not see them proclaiming war, sliding in last-minute caveats, or bitching through Tweets. They seem to have taken the high road, and the players are emotional wrecks. Their lawyers are to blame for that. When a deal gets done, they go away and checks stop. Why would they want that?

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Bring on the scabs.

[MHS831]

Correction to his tweet: "Dear REMAINING FAN(s)..."

[firstdayfan]

I agree...there are so many things going on right now with the players that make you scratch your head. Like MJD saying the other night that they couldn't be sure if their reps helped put together the current proposal. This to me is ludacris and its just lawyer talk...they are listening to the wrong people and one thing is for sure, playing football is not a priority for them.

[Davidson Deac II]

This was just tweeted by Dominic Foxsworth, who has been a big part of the players side of the CBA negotiations:

This just pisses me off...this is one of the darkest times in professional football and he is sitting at home? When I work OT i don't get to see my kids...I have to freaking WORK!!! I don't understand who is advising them or if they are just playing this thing by the seat of their pants but if something isnt done by Wednesday of next week something is terribly wrong. In fact, I think the owners said they would pull the offer if it wasn't accepted by Wednesday.

Here's the one thing that I can't shake and no one seems to mention, the NFLPA's lockout insurance. Basically every player would be paid $200,000 for next year if there is no football. Think about that? If someone said you could make 200 grand by sitting at home and playing with your kids wouldn't you take that??? Is this where we are headed? It's the only reason I can think of that the players are holding out...they would rather sit at home and collect money while the owners lose millions of dollars in revenue. I think they are going to hold out until they get everything they want.

But as long as he gets to play with his daughter and watch tv we as fans shouldn't be upset...

Players are thinking that they need to be calm, take their time, let things work out and not run around in a panic. When I work extra hours, I do get to see my family, because its mostly done from home. Same with this. In fact, a lot of people do that nowadays. As he said, most of the work is being done over the phone, and I assume he has a phone in his house.

Right now, the players or their rep's are taking time to read and study the proposal. There is nothing wrong with that. In fact, it would be wrong of them to not read and study it. Its a big part of their lives for the next few years.

We should hold off on the panic until they approve or reject.

[MHS831]

Bring on the scabs.

I think that is what Kessler and Quinn would love to see. No union, no salary cap, no draft. Every player for himself. Free enterprise. Capitalism. If you want parody, that will not work in the NFL.

However, if there is no union, there are no scabs because the union workers are not being replaced. They want to be treated as a unified workforce, when actually, by their own doing, they really are not. The NFL knows that a union is in the best interest of the game, so they played along. However, if they refused to recognize the union and opened the doors for tryouts, the players they get would not be scabs. There are so many free agents awaiting their big payday--300 draft picks and undrafted rookies waiting for chances. THere are also 1000 or so players who are qualified to do little else. In the NFL the average career is about 3 years. To give up 33% of your possible income potential over issues not related to finances is STOOPID.

[mmmbeans]

This was just tweeted by Dominic Foxsworth, who has been a big part of the players side of the CBA negotiations:

This just pisses me off...this is one of the darkest times in professional football and he is sitting at home? When I work OT i don't get to see my kids...I have to freaking WORK!!! I don't understand who is advising them or if they are just playing this thing by the seat of their pants but if something isnt done by Wednesday of next week something is terribly wrong. In fact, I think the owners said they would pull the offer if it wasn't accepted by Wednesday.

Here's the one thing that I can't shake and no one seems to mention, the NFLPA's lockout insurance. Basically every player would be paid $200,000 for next year if there is no football. Think about that? If someone said you could make 200 grand by sitting at home and playing with your kids wouldn't you take that??? Is this where we are headed? It's the only reason I can think of that the players are holding out...they would rather sit at home and collect money while the owners lose millions of dollars in revenue. I think they are going to hold out until they get everything they want.

But as long as he gets to play with his daughter and watch tv we as fans shouldn't be upset...

maybe you should get a job as an nfl player?

[firstdayfan]

Players are thinking that they need to be calm, take their time, let things work out and not run around in a panic. When I work extra hours, I do get to see my family, because its mostly done from home. Same with this. In fact, a lot of people do that nowadays. As he said, most of the work is being done over the phone, and I assume he has a phone in his house.

Right now, the players or their rep's are taking time to read and study the proposal. There is nothing wrong with that. In fact, it would be wrong of them to not read and study it. Its a big part of their lives for the next few years.

We should hold off on the panic until they approve or reject.

I understand what you are saying but my point is that if this CBA is so important and they want to go over every detail then why isn't he doing that? And furthermore, if they had reps in the meetings who were helping to put this together then why are there so many things that they are unsure of? The players are stalling and if you can't see that I have nothing left to say. My only question is WHY are they stalling? The owners reviewed the CBA and voted on in it AND negotiated a new revenue sharing plan in one day. The players have had the documents since thrusday night...more likely they had it Wednesday when they were supposed to vote. Why is it taking them so long? Why are they being so "detailed" now when they had their chance at the negotiating table? Why did they decertify the union with no plan in place to put it back together? This is why I asked what are the players thinking? What is the end game?

[Jangler]

If the players are reading over the CBA and making sure they think they aren't getting screwed over. It is a 10 year deal after all, I got no problems with them making sure all is the way they want it.

[mmmbeans]

I understand what you are saying but my point is that if this CBA is so important and they want to go over every detail then why isn't he doing that? And furthermore, if they had reps in the meetings who were helping to put this together then why are there so many things that they are unsure of? The players are stalling and if you can't see that I have nothing left to say. My only question is WHY are they stalling? The owners reviewed the CBA and voted on in it AND negotiated a new revenue sharing plan in one day. The players have had the documents since thrusday night...more likely they had it Wednesday when they were supposed to vote. Why is it taking them so long? Why are they being so "detailed" now when they had their chance at the negotiating table? Why did they decertify the union with no plan in place to put it back together? This is why I asked what are the players thinking? What is the end game?

if you were in negotiations that would define your position, pay and freedom for the remainder of your employable life would you not be extra careful going over what you were signing? Basic agreements are one thing, contract language is entirely different. The players are being careful, as they should. I wouldn't be in any hurry either.

[firstdayfan]

if you were in negotiations that would define your position, pay and freedom for the remainder of your employable life would you not be extra careful going over what you were signing? Basic agreements are one thing, contract language is entirely different. The players are being careful, as they should. I wouldn't be in any hurry either.

There's no real way to compare this to anything in our lives and to try to is misguided. I understand they want to read over everything and be sure of what is in the agreement but this is too much. It shouldnt take this long to go over a document. When I enlisted in the military that was a big decision and I went through all the documents in a few hours. You guys act like this stuff is written in a different language or something. Being cautious is one thing...trying to prove a point is something entirely different...I think the players are trying to prove a point.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

we're all losing focus here

lets not forget that the core of this issue is owners are greedy old white guys

[TruCatzFan]

Brighter news... Vincent Jackson has backpedaled and now doesn't want the 10 mil... One less hurdle I guess... I don't expect anything b4 Wednesday... If it happens b4 that...

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