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But the one thing that really held us back last year is now in Denver and they slurp Fox every time they talk about the Broncos. They just won't admit it was Fox not the team.

Give them about 3 or 4 years... Media will forget about him and Denver fans will be begging for him to be fired. If he makes it that long...

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I disagree. I think the FO handcuffed him, took control of the team and depth chart, and tried to ruin Fox in the process.

So, you think the intent was to "ruin" John Fox and not prepare for the labor issue, all while the FO knew that not putting consecutive winning seasons together was a good enough reason to take the team in a different direction?

They didn't fire the man - they honored his contract then parted ways.

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So, you think the intent was to "ruin" John Fox and not prepare for the labor issue, all while the FO knew that not putting consecutive winning seasons together was a good enough reason to take the team in a different direction?

They didn't fire the man - they honored his contract then parted ways.

problem is they began taking the team in another direction.......yet still had Fox coaching it.

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problem is they began taking the team in another direction.......yet still had Fox coaching it.

Yep. I always felt that Jerry's leadership role in the CBA process played a part in dealing with personnel and player contracts until after it was resolved. Seemed like a convenient timing issue for him. If Fox had, say, two or three years left on his contract, I doubt he finished it.

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So, you think the intent was to "ruin" John Fox and not prepare for the labor issue, all while the FO knew that not putting consecutive winning seasons together was a good enough reason to take the team in a different direction?

They didn't fire the man - they honored his contract then parted ways.

I guess it comes down to the way some of you view Jerry. You love him for bringing a team here but can't acknowledge some of the mistakes he made.

If you truly want to prepare this team for the future, you fire Fox and hire Rivera last year so we rebuild then, can truly identify needs, and draft for them this year.

Fox was handed a team with veterans cut, a 2nd round QB, a blocking WR, a Division 2 QB supposed to play WR and absolutely NO notable FAs.

Jerry tried to save money, bottom line. He got lucky we got the #1 pick and drafted Cam. He cleared all this cap room and we signed no one to improve. He made a business decision, not a football one.

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Yep. I always felt that Jerry's leadership role in the CBA process played a part in dealing with personnel and player contracts until after it was resolved. Seemed like a convenient timing issue for him. If Fox had, say, two or three years left on his contract, I doubt he finished it.

maybe so....but if the FO gave Fox the team he wanted in 2010 (with the draft and no name FA moves).....he would have battled to around .500 like most years.

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