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[rayzor]

Best sarcastic reply since the inception of the Internet.

Thanks for it.

ummmm....i was serious.

thanks for the accusation though. (just in case your mind can't wrap around it, that was a sarcastic reply.)

[rayzor]

Our big move in FA has already happened when we tagged Pep and eliminated ourselves from FA altogether.

and in my opinion we are NOT getting into the first round this year.

EDIT: any fan on here who is not upset that we aren't making waves in FA EVERY year needs to realize that if you are not going forward you are going backward..there is not standing still in the NFL.

12-4 >>>>> 7-9

i don't consider that a step backward

[rayzor]

I'm not really sure why so many have wanted us to do something in FA. If there is nothing out there you think you need, why sign somebody? Even if Peppers had signed his tender and were traded, I don't think the FO would have signed anybody. This is the mentality that has made us the fattest country in the world. Just because you can, does it mean you should? As I have said, and so have others, we will get somebody. I just happen to think it will be after the draft, not before.

Maybe FAs are kind of like the stock market, over inflated. What if the Panthers are waiting for the hoopla and deep pockets to over sign marginal players? I am going to have to trust Fox and Hurney to do what they know best because last season we were in the same boat. A lot of people here were giving the FO a big WTF? for our trades and free agent pickups.

Be patient and lets see what happens.

Last year the Panthers went out and got an over-the-hill receiver that no one else wanted, a first round bust from the Raiders, and a few tons of offensive guards that used to have good games but who weren't really pursued by other teams. We turned that motley collection into three starters.

We will probably take the same approach this year on the defensive line as we did last year on the offensive line. Look for one good starter out of that activity. I'm assuming that Peppers plays as a Panther next year, and it will be another contract year for him so that's going to be solid. Is anyone seriously worried about our linebackers? The secondary is suspect at Lucas' spot but we have decent depth there.

Right now the Panthers are doing what they're supposed to be doing. You can say they've done nothing, but locking up a pro-bowl left tackle and a defensive end who didn't want to play here is something, and there's still a lot of time left.

If you were among the people who were cheering the Brayton signing last year and predicted great things from Vincent, then go ahead and complain about the lack of activity. Otherwise, just shut up and chill.

I agree with you about doing to the defensive line what we did to the offensive line last year.

I also am going on record that while I liked Fonoti more than Vincent last year I was on the Brayton bandwagon early on even when many were kicking him to the curb before the season and even in training camp. But I still am quite content to see who we can pick up as things progress. The lack of cap space is by the Pathers own design so obviously they aren't too hung up on the lack of activity. Since they are in the middle of it and proceeding without panic, there seems no reason for me or anyone else to take a " the sky is falling" attitude.

all good posts.

for the doubters i was being serious here as well.

[Brooklyn Bully]

ummmm....i was serious.

thanks for the accusation though. (just in case your mind can't wrap around it, that was a sarcastic reply.)

My bad. You're usually such an ass on here I figured it was sarcastic. And no, that wasn't sarcastic.

[Brooklyn Bully]

12-4 >>>>> 7-9

i don't consider that a step backward

Yet we were active in FA last season, thus not standing still, thus resulting in a better record. So he was actually correct in his stance.

Now, if someone will kindly go tell Pep to sign his tender so we can trade him during the draft then sign a few guys in May (that's when I voted in the FA pool, btw), we can end threads like this until next year. kthnx.

[rayzor]

My bad. You're usually such an ass on here I figured it was sarcastic. And no, that wasn't sarcastic.

thanks? :confused:

[rayzor]

Yet we were active in FA last season, thus not standing still, thus resulting in a better record. So he was actually correct in his stance.

Now, if someone will kindly go tell Pep to sign his tender so we can trade him during the draft then sign a few guys in May (that's when I voted in the FA pool, btw), we can end threads like this until next year. kthnx.

it could be argued we had more needs then than now.

just because we haven't yet doesn't mean we aren't going to.

beefing up the dline and a little depth to the oline can be done later.

[Jangler]

My bad. You're usually such an ass on here I figured it was sarcastic. And no, that wasn't sarcastic.

Oh come on, there are much bigger assess.

[Brooklyn Bully]

Oh come on, there are much bigger assess.

This is true, in both size and stature as well.

[MadHatter]

Do these pants make my ass look big?

[Jangler]

[MadHatter]

No, her big ass makes her ass look big.

[monstercat]

Good thread, but you will never get through to some people. They have made up their minds that our FO is made up of idiots who are staying out of the FA period just to piss people off. Nevermind that last year's Super Bowl winner didn't make a big splash either...unless you consider Justin Hartwig (who the Panthers released) a big FA signing.

Three of the big FA "winners" last year, were the Browns, Jets, and Saints. How did that work out?

[Woodie]

EDIT: any fan on here who is not upset that we aren't making waves in FA EVERY year needs to realize that if you are not going forward you are going backward..there is not standing still in the NFL.

The thing is that in the NFL there is no such thing as standing still. While it may seem like nothing is happening, it's not true. This is a young team, and those young players are working on improving, getting bigger and stronger, and working on the technical and mental aspects of their game. Guys like Johnson, Godfrey, and Otah should be much better this season due to working in the off-season program along with the additional year of maturing in the system. Not to mention players, such as Bernadeau and Schwartz, that we fans tend to think of as an afterthought, but the team seems to really like that should also improve with a full year and off-season program under their belt.

Also, we will fill holes in the draft. Despite what many want to think, we don't really have all that many holes. Offense is pretty well set (Like JD or not, he is the starter), and on defense we only need a DT and CB (assuming Pep plays under the tag). And CB is iffy depending on how we think Marshall will do in Meeks' defense. So the only clear need is a DT. And we should be able to find a capable rotational guy in FA once the dust has settled (Robertson?) as well as a solid guy with our 2nd round pick. Then the rest of the draft can be used to fill in our depth.

So while not flashy, what we are doing is all we need to do. There's no reason to think the team won't be fine next year.