"Cam looking at the film what do you need to do to improve?"

[PantherFanForLife]

That sound byte got coverage on First Take this morning. The snippet at the bottom of the screen: "Cam says he's in same league as Brady."

Poor guy is being passed off as arrogant now.

I freaking knew it! I was just talking about this and getting flamed for it in the other thread.

I will warn you all again. Get used to it. Cam Newton will be one of the biggest narcissist in this game. Some of it will be unfair hate, but some of it, he WILL bring on himself. I know people around here want him to fit the "selfless leader, good ol' boy" image. Cam is not going to be that guy.

He's going to be saying a lot of things like this. Go back and listen to the part where he says "I'm just a quarterback in the National Football League'. Pay attention to the air and tone of his voice.

Please hold it back Cam. Please get us the win this Sunday. Then you can let go. You won't just shock the nation, you will shock the Huddle.

[Floppin]

Your definition and description of narcissism is so wrong it borders on ridiculous. Your attributing parts of psychopathic and sociopathic behaviors and making them into some absurd self derived definition of narcissism.

[PantherFanForLife]

Your definition and description of narcissism is so wrong it borders on ridiculous. Your attributing parts of psychopathic and sociopathic behaviors and making them into some absurd self derived definition of narcissism.

No I'm really not. But I really don't care to go into a detailed explanation again.

Newton is a narcissist, in every since of the word, and its true definition. Whether or not he ends up developing a narcissistic personality disorder, and begins exhibiting psychopathic behaviors, that's another story. I didn't say Newton was a psychopath or a sociopath. In fact, Newton is anything but a sociopath. He's going to be a media darling.

But just out of curiosity, what is your definition of a narcissist?

[Wyank]

Actually it was my first thought watching the clip, that he sounded a little cocky. Whether he meant it that way or not is a different story. It would be wise of the team to have a PR guy working with him on how to handle the media. I'm sure they do but he needs a little more work. Media is going to take any inch Cam gives them to turn it on him and make him look bad.

[Floppin]

No I'm really not. But I really don't care to go into a detailed explanation again.

Newton is a narcissist, in every since of the word, and its true definition. Whether or not he ends up developing a narcissistic personality disorder, and begins exhibiting psychopathic behaviors, that's another story. I didn't say Newton was a psychopath or a sociopath. In fact, Newton is anything but a sociopath. He's going to be a media darling.

But just out of curiosity, what is your definition of a narcissist?

There's a literal dictionary definition

nar·cis·sist  [nahr-suh-sist] Show IPA

noun

1.

a person who is overly self-involved, and often vain and selfish.

2.

Psychoanalysis . a person who suffers from narcissism, deriving erotic gratification from admiration of his or her own physical or mental attributes.

And then there is a psychological definition that describes narcissism as a personality disorder. Neither of which is what you describe. Modern day narcissism definitions were started with Freud and have evolved over time, however none of the described definitions fits your broad view of narcissism, which is false by almost all conventional wisdoms.

[PantherFanForLife]

There's a literal dictionary definition

And then there is a psychological definition that describes narcissism as a personality disorder. Neither of which is what you describe. Modern day narcissism definitions were started with Freud and have evolved over time, however none of the described definitions fits your broad view of narcissism, which is false by almost all conventional wisdoms.

First of all all your literal definition, is incredibly limited, and incomplete.

Second the psychological definition, doesn't describe narcissism as a personality disorder, it is actually called narcissistic personality disorder, which it the disorder. A narcissist, on its own, isn't a disorder.

Here's another modern day description of a narcissist from the HARVARD BUSINESS REVIEW:

Throughout history, narcissists have always emerged to inspire people and to shape the future. When military, religious, and political arenas dominated society, it was figures such as Napoléon Bonaparte, Mahatma Ghandi, or Franklin Delano Roosevelt who determined the social agenda. But from time to time, when business became the engine of social change, it, too, generated its share of narcissistic leaders. That was true at the beginning of this century, when men like Andrew Carnegie, John D. Rockefeller, Thomas Edison, and Henry Ford exploited new technologies and restructured American industry. And I think it is true again today.

http://www.maccoby.com/Articles/NarLeaders.shtml

Bill Gates is a narcissist.

Ghandi was a narcissist.

Muhammad Ali is a narcissist.

Michael Jordan is a narcissist.

Tom Brady is a narcissist.

By that same token,

Hitler was a narcissist.

Osama Bin Laden was a narcissist.

O.J. Simpson was a narcissist.

Those guys also had traits that some would later label as psychopathic or those of a sociopath.

Finally Cam Newton, IS, indeed a narcissist.

[Sword]

I freaking knew it! I was just talking about this and getting flamed for it in the other thread.

I will warn you all again. Get used to it. Cam Newton will be one of the biggest narcissist in this game. Some of it will be unfair hate, but some of it, he WILL bring on himself. I know people around here want him to fit the "selfless leader, good ol' boy" image. Cam is not going to be that guy.

He's going to be saying a lot of things like this. Go back and listen to the part where he says "I'm just a quarterback in the National Football League'. Pay attention to the air and tone of his voice.

Please hold it back Cam. Please get us the win this Sunday. Then you can let go. You won't just shock the nation, you will shock the Huddle.

mountains out of molehills dude. relax a bit.

[Floppin]

Your using one man's obscure definition of narcissism over and over again. Maccoby =/= the end all be all of psychological behavior definitions. He uses his self proclaimed definitions to sell books, and is basically the only person on the planet to transcribe classic psychopathic behavior into his own definition of narcissism.

[monstercat]

So he's turning down national media interviews to focus on his job... I thought this kid was a phony and had a questionable work ethic???

Keep making these "analysts" look like fools Cam... :cam:

I want someone to lift the rock Charlie Casserly is hiding under (let him put his toupee on first) and see what he thinks of Cam now?

Seriously, where did all of these "experts" get the idea that Cam was dumb, phony, or had a bad work ethic? How do you put a team on your back and go undefeated in the SEC without putting in some work? How do you get an established SEC team to follow you in your first year with the team if you're a phony? How do you improve so much during the course of one season if you're dumb?

I never saw any evidence to back up all of these ridiculous claims.

[tiger7_88]

Newton is a narcissist, in every since of the word, and its true definition.

Wadafa?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissist

Except in the sense of primary narcissism or healthy self-love, "narcissism" usually is used to describe some kind of problem in a person or group's relationships with self and others. In everyday speech, "narcissism" often means inflated self-importance, egotism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness.

[PantherFanForLife]

Your using one man's obscure definition of narcissism over and over again. Maccoby =/= the end all be all of psychological behavior definitions. He uses his self proclaimed definitions to sell books, and is basically the only person on the planet to transcribe classic psychopathic behavior into his own definition of narcissism.

Oh ok, a Harvard business psychoanalyst recognized as an expert on leadership is not good enough for you...how about Forbes?

http://www.forbes.com/2006/08/28/business-basics-narcissist-ceos-cx_tw_0829narcissist.html

How about one on Julius Caesar, another Harvard article about another narcissist. Heard of him?

http://harvard-carnegie.blogspot.com/2008/07/julius-caesar-narcissistic-leaders.html

[Floppin]

Both those articles are based on Maccoby's definition, they both state as much in the article. Get off this guys penis already.

[Floppin]

He teaches leardership by the way, he in no way teaches business psychoanalysis, he actually got his degree for psychoanalysis in fuging Mexico.

[The Saltman]

Floppin is taking you to school bro