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Panthers moving to a 3-4??? Says McDerm


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I keep reading that because Johnson stood up on 3 plays yesterday, he would be slated as a 3-4 OLB. What based on his speed, agility, pass defense skills for example would suggest he could be an OLB. I remember some discussion about Pepper's not necessarily being a good OLB. So why would Johnson be a good fit for that role versus being a DE in the 3-4. And please don't say he isn't big enough. Because he is too big for OLB.

Mario Williams did it, same size as pep.

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Quick question. I'm sure Johnson could play OLB but wouldn't it be better to put him at DE? He's a big guy with great strength. Not to mention he holds up better against the run. I just hate that it will take away some of his pass rush ability.

Hardy strikes me as more athletic and should be the OLB. I remember him saying when he entered the draft that he can play 3-4 OLB and DE in a pinch. Regardless, I like CJ and Hardy too much to approve of this move.

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Quick question. I'm sure Johnson could play OLB but wouldn't it be better to put him at DE? He's a big guy with great strength. Not to mention he holds up better against the run. I just hate that it will take away some of his pass rush ability.

Hardy strikes me as more athletic and should be the OLB. I remember him saying when he entered the draft that he can play 3-4 OLB and DE in a pinch. Regardless, I like CJ and Hardy too much to approve of this move.

As I just said above when carphan asked

His frame allows up to move up to 290 without losing his ability was his scouting report

He's too big and slow for OLB

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I keep reading that because Johnson stood up on 3 plays yesterday, he would be slated as a 3-4 OLB. What based on his speed, agility, pass defense skills for example would suggest he could be an OLB. I remember some discussion about Pepper's not necessarily being a good OLB. So why would Johnson be a good fit for that role versus being a DE in the 3-4. And please don't say he isn't big enough. Because he is too big for OLB.

One of the quickest DE's in the league over 10 -20 yards running 1.53 in 10 and 2.74 in 20. He's got great strength, above average agility and the pass rushing move list to be effective as 3-4 OLB.

So lets see quick, strong, agile and has the pass rushing moves to be successful. He's just plain explosive now.

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