Tied w/ Indy for most points allowed

[Iceberg Slim]

Offense = ranked #5 in total offense;# 5 in passing yards, # 13 in rushing yards ,

Defense= ranked # 16 total defense; ranked # 11 in passing; ranked # 31 out of 32 in rushing yards given up----842 yds in 6 games...wow

all in all defense is sitting in the middle of the pack.....just really can't stop the run....

[blackcatgrowl]

technically you can say that St Louis, Denver, and KC are all below Indy and Carolina since they have had a bye week and are giving up more points per game

Yeah, updated my post like right when you posted this. We are still 28/29th in points per game.

[Iceberg Slim]

Top 10 offense, bottom 2 Defense = bunch of losses

Wonder where we rank on 3rd down defense and the amount of yards we are averaging giving up on 3rd down...its alot.

We are ranked number 24 average of 5.8 yards given up on third down

[frash.exe]

inexperience + lack of discipline i would say.

the two kind of goes hand in hand, though.

Our oldest starting defensive lineman is 25. There are no starters older than 28 on the defense (anderson and gamble). Munnerlyn is 23. Godfrey is 25, as is connor. Now compare that with the offense where gross, smith, shockey, wharton are all 30 or older. Newton's pretty much the least experienced and he is playing his ass off right now.

Anybody who wants to fire the defensive coaches based on the performance on that side of the ball this year is a simpering retard who should be gassed.

[blackcatgrowl]

Our oldest starting defensive lineman is 25. There are no starters older than 28 on the defense (anderson and gamble). Munnerlyn is 23. Godfrey is 25, as is connor. Now compare that with the offense where gross, smith, shockey, wharton are all 30 or older. Newton's pretty much the least experienced and he is playing his ass off right now.

Anybody who wants to fire the defensive coaches based on the performance on that side of the ball this year is a simpering retard who should be gassed.

Yeah, asking for the firing of people is way too premature, and over the top.

But I'm not really sure that age is a factor as much as the fact we DO have some significant injuries on D.

Still, to allow 27+ points a game is more than just an age/injury thing. There is something flawed with the defensive philosophy (maybe our guys can't play zone as well as man-coverage).

And has anyone else noticed that Sean Mcdermott looks shockingly like Ron Howard?

[PhillyB]

gosh its almost like we lost beason, davis, an experienced defensive lineman that was a key free agent signing, and other key players on a weekly basis. i'm trying to figure this one out but i just can't.

[blackcatgrowl]

gosh its almost like we lost beason, davis, an experienced defensive lineman that was a key free agent signing, and other key players on a weekly basis. i'm trying to figure this one out but i just can't.

We didn't have Davis last year. Hardy was sharing reps with Everette Brown and learning the position. Our starting DTs were scrubs (Nick Hayden, Corvey Irvin, Ed Johnson).

Yes, injuries are a problem here, but our D did better with about the same talent level last year, especially when you consider our Time of Possession issues because the Offense couldn't sustain drives (Our D was #5 in total scrimmage plays).