Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Sorenson Wants Wr, Blackmon

top dawg

By top dawg,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

top dawg Grand Master

top dawg

Posted
  • Author
Posted

You seem to be arguing which one of them is better which wasn't the original argument. Right now Lafell is a good number 2/3 WR. That is supported by his play his first two seasons. Hogan having the potential to be a starter doesn't change the fact that he has played in 3 games and is a much bigger mystery than Lafell.

My argument was about each guy's potential at their respective positions (and their relevant value in reference to the team, to break it down even further).

Next you'll be telling me that just because Blackmon hasn't played a snap in the NFL and Lafell has two seasons under his belt, than Blackmon is more of a mystery than LaFell at WR. I suppose that Andrew Luck is more of a mystery at QB than Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert or Andy Dalton. College careers do stand for something. Sometimes eyes don't lie.

In any event, it's all just opinion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
chef17 Apprentice

chef17

Posted
Posted

My argument was about each guy's potential at their respective positions (and their relevant value in reference to the team, to break it down even further).

Next you'll be telling me that just because Blackmon hasn't played a snap in the NFL and Lafell has two seasons under his belt, than Blackmon is more of a mystery than LaFell at WR. I suppose that Andrew Luck is more of a mystery at QB than Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert or Andy Dalton. College careers do stand for something. Sometimes eyes don't lie.

In any event, it's all just opinion.

Well considering all those things are true. Lafell as I said is a good 2/3 WR. What exactly can you say for a fact about Blackmon besides his potential?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
top dawg Grand Master

top dawg

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Potential means a lot, especially when it comes to WRs who probably have the least learning curve in reference to transitioning from college to the pros. A beast of a WR in college translates well into the NFL, and even the marginally good ones in college don't bust.

Blackmon is a first round talent. How can you possibly argue anything different? LaFell, so far, has been exactly what he is supposed to be, but not what some hoped that he would be.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
chef17 Apprentice

chef17

Posted
Posted

Potential means a lot, especially when it comes to WRs who probably have the least learning curve in reference to transitioning from college to the pros. A beast of a WR in college translates well into the NFL, and even the marginally good ones in college don't bust.

Blackmon is a first round talent. How can you possibly argue anything different? LaFell, so far, has been exactly what he is supposed to be, but not what some hoped that he would be.

Where did I argue different? Lafell being exactly what he is supposed to be just proves my point, he isn't a mystery.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
top dawg Grand Master

top dawg

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Where did I argue different? Lafell being exactly what he is supposed to be just proves my point, he isn't a mystery.

The mystery is whether he has the skill set/upside that would make us roll the dice and pass on Blackmon, if Blackmon were available at number 9. This is where the whole argument really began.

Wr having the least learning curve are you serious ? How long have you been watching football? Oh and to help you out rb and guards have the least learning curve.

OK, whatever you say coach. Run a crisp route, and catch the ball. You know exactly where you are going every time, and sometimes you may even have to worry about a pass rusher, stunts, and everything else that the O-line and RBs have to consume themselves with, lest their QB end up on his ass. Not to mention that at many times, RBs and TEs do great impressions of a WR as well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Hairless Cat Newbie

Hairless Cat

Posted
Posted

Of course the Panthers need defense more than they need offense. Because Brandon Hogan, a fourth-round pick out of West Virginia last year, has the talent to start this season opposite Chris Gamble at cornerback, they especially need a defensive tackle and a defensive end.

Im glad someone other than me thinks we dont need another cb with Hogan waiting in the wings

Link to comment
Share on other sites
koolkatluke Newbie

koolkatluke

Posted
Posted

Do you know what a route tree is and how long it takes to learn. Or how you have to be inches with your cuts or going in and out of breaks. Not to mention learning how to get off the line of scrimage beating a zone know all the 100ths of coverages a defense has or even hot reads and audbles. You have to learn before just catching a ball. Do you even watch football?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
top dawg Grand Master

top dawg

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Do you know what a route tree is and how long it takes to learn. Or how you have to be inches with your cuts or going in and out of breaks. Not to mention learning how to get off the line of scrimage beating a zone know all the 100ths of coverages a defense has or even hot reads and audbles. You have to learn before just catching a ball. Do you even watch football?

Nah, I don't watch it. Didn't play DE or TE when I was a kid either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
2plankingpanther Newbie

2plankingpanther

Posted
Posted

Potential means a lot, especially when it comes to WRs who probably have the least learning curve in reference to transitioning from college to the pros. A beast of a WR in college translates well into the NFL, and even the marginally good ones in college don't bust.

Blackmon is a first round talent. How can you possibly argue anything different? LaFell, so far, has been exactly what he is supposed to be, but not what some hoped that he would be.

What about Dwayne Jarrett and Ray ray Curuth,they didn't pan out but were great in college!
Link to comment
Share on other sites
raleigh-panther Grand Master

raleigh-panther

Posted
Posted

Blackmon won't be there at 9.

If it is felt he is close to Johnson in ability, then the Panthers should go get him unless there is some raising player in 2013 draft they are in love with.

We have no WRs on this team, save Steve Smith, that comes close to Blackmon...not even in the same discussion.

If they want to trade up and get him, I would not have a problem with it, not that my opinion matters.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
I am Hubby Newbie

I am Hubby

Posted
Posted

Like I said NE got the TE but other then Welker who are you taking over lafell and Gettis right now?

Ocho (did he catch a ball this year) Branch (isn't he older then smith) Loyld (now I like loyld but he's older now to.)

Then The Lions

You Have Megatron and ????????

TE Pettigrew

WR Burleson

WR Young

Those three combined for over 2100 yards. So I would say the Lions are just fine thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • LinvilleGorge
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      No. Physical tools alone aren't enough. There are plenty of examples of draft busts to support that. Aost all of them had the physical tools and that wasn't enough. But Bryce is a perfect example of the opposite. Absolutely elite intangibles aren't enough either. If you simply don't have the physical abilities all the football intelligence and work ethic in the world won't be enough to overcome it. Just look to the sidelines every Sunday. We call those people "coaches".
    • SmokinwithWilly
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      As much as I despise Billy B, his philosophy on QBs is how I would approach things if I were a GM. You always keep looking for your next starter.  He has Bledsoe, who got injured and his backup ended up being the GOAT. Even while he had that going, he kept getting his next guy and developing them. When Brady got hurt, Cassel stepped in and went 11-5 and they missed the wild card by dumb luck. Who knows how far they would have gone if they had gotten in. Jimmy Gs career started in NE. There were others, but he always kept looking.  You can't be afraid to keep looking for your next starter, but it looks like we're afraid to look for more than a marginal one. If you're going to offer a $25m contract with incentives, that screams marginal QB. It also screams you're just a transition until we find our guy. After a 10 or 11 win season, he's not accepting that offer. And then you're in a Daniel Jones situation. Do you pay for a year of success and pray it wasn't a one year wonder?  To this point, Bryce has really produced nothing, yet for whatever reason, our FO has not even sniffed at the idea that we need a real QB room with real QBs. Dalton was never starter potential, Plummer was a joke. KP certainly isn't, neither is Grier.  Our approach to the QB room needs to be one of strength not fear. Bring in guys who can compete or who you think can compete. This is THE elite position, in an elite sport, paid premium salary, where production matters. Either you produce or you can lose your job. It's not mean, it's just the reality of the position.  And I'm really just tired of our candy ass approach to it. 
    • LinvilleGorge
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      If you plug Bryce onto the Pro Bowl roster you might have a chance to compete for a SB. If he's surrounded by top tier talent with a top tier defense on the other side, a field flipping punter, and a kicker good from 60+ you might have a chance. But that means you basically have to recreate Saban's Bama in the NFL and that's impossible... and Bryce couldn't win a championship in that environment either. What the Panthers didn't realize when they got so obsessed with his "PG mentality" was that what they were looking st was a "barely checks the box PG". The basketball equivalent of Bryce would be an undersized PG with marginal athleticism who can make the basic plays but adds nothing to the team in terms of elevating the overall team. Not a great shooter, not a great defender, not a great driver. Just a guy who can basically get you into the offense and be a matador on defense. Basically a placeholder while you look to upgrade the PG position. 
×
×
  • Create New...