The Jim Crow Museum Of Racist Memorabilia

[CarolinaNCSU]

Yea i see they put Jim Crow in with civil rights, but IMO it deserves its own section. When I think Civil Rights I think MLK, Rosa Parks, LBJ, and the Black Panthers. When I think Jim Crow, I think seperate but equal, chain gang, sharecropping, Jack Johnson, strange fruit, sun down towns.

Same as Reconstruction, it could stand on its own. Both eras still shape society to this day.

I'm late on this and this is a random thought, but I'm glad you brought up Jack Johnson. Forgotten man in the greatest athletes ever.

[mmmbeans]

Jack johnson was so f*cking awesome.

[mmmbeans]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_slaves

Pope Callixtus I (died 222) was Pope from about 217 to about 222, during the reigns of the Roman Emperors Heliogabalus and Alexander Severus. He was martyred for his Christian faith and is a canonized saint of the Roman Catholic Church.

Pope Clement I (died in 100) was the fourth Pope according to Catholic tradition. He may have been a freedman of Titus Flavius Clemens.

Felicitas, Christian martyr and saint (died March 7, 203).

Pope Pius I was Pope from about 140 to about 154, during the reign of the Roman Emperor Antonius Pius.

Saint Patrick, abducted from Britain, enslaved in Ireland, escaped to Britain, returned to Ireland as a missionary

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes

I believe that there were 2 more, but I couldn't track it down that they were slaves. Perhaps they were just killed by the Romans.

Interesting, thanks

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

Jack johnson was so f*cking awesome.

Died in a car wreck near Raleigh.

[Jackofalltrades]

Yes, putting this history in a museum with free admission is a great way to keep it hidden.

Skew wins.

[mav1234]

Yea i see they put Jim Crow in with civil rights, but IMO it deserves its own section. When I think Civil Rights I think MLK, Rosa Parks, LBJ, and the Black Panthers. When I think Jim Crow, I think seperate but equal, chain gang, sharecropping, Jack Johnson, strange fruit, sun down towns.

Same as Reconstruction, it could stand on its own. Both eras still shape society to this day.

I think there is an argument for keeping Jim Crow separate (har har) but I also think it does fit in with Civil Rights if section type is limited because of the context it gives, in the same way that many Civil War sections also contain stuff on the compromises leading to it, how the revolutionary war stuff usually includes more than just the war, both before it and after it etc...

however... I think that if you are trying to make the point that reconstruction & jim crow are sometimes not paid enough attention to in terms of the history of the country, I think you have a point there... but that is also the case, imo, with the other casualties of 'manifest destiny' etc. reality is that this country has a few very dark blemishes that are topics that some school districts & teachers do not like spending a ton of time on. HOWEVER... I think that the vast majority of students in this country do know about Jim Crow (if not much about reconstruction), which is at least an indication that the education is going on, even if not to the level that perhaps it deserves.

[King Taharqa]

You make good points.

As for Jack Johnson, he is the first black heavyweight champ. And he's the first black superstar athlete in American history. He pre-dates Jackie Robinson, Joe Louis, and Cassius Clay. What he was able to accomplish as a outspoken black man in the Jim Crow era is quite remarkable. Dude was rich, drove fast cars, had a fleet of white women at a time blacks were hung in the south for speaking too loudly around them. He was a early 1900s "sport". But a lot of african americans and white americans know very little about him. Pretty much all stereotypes, fears, insecurities about black athletes started with the then media's depiction of Jack. Ive seen those same stereotypes and fears held against todays athletes like Cam, Bonds, Vick, etc today, 100 years later. Even the term "great white hope" comes from Jack's story. I feel if more people were familiar with his story and the times he fought in, they'd look at todays athletes differently. Theyd have a better understanding. Jim Crow is still influential on race relations to this day.

[Jackofalltrades]

Boy, this thread pulled you right out of the woodwork didn't it...