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I Just Watched 6 Games Worth Of Quinton Coples Snaps...


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Just watched 6 games worth of snaps from Coples on YouTube from this year and last and I've come to one conclusion:

The guy is fuging terrible. Just awful. It's not even the lack of a motor (but it could be) it's the fact that he makes zero impact. He gets pushed out of the play on almost every snap. Some of the times he was being double teamed, sure, but even when he wasn't he made no real impact on the play. The few good plays he made were almost always a result of simply being so much stronger than the lineman blocking him that he just overpowered him. That won't happen in the NFL against pro linemen.

I'm really trying to get on this bandwagon as it looks like we're genuinely interested in this guy, but I really don't see it. I can't understand how Marty Hurney, a huge game tape guy, can seriously be thinking of drafting this guy.

I honestly feel like, if we take him, he'll be Hurney's first bust in the 1st round. I like almost every pass rusher projected to go before the 3rd round better than Coples. Nick Perry, Vinny Curry, and any number of other 2nd round guys look a LOT better than Coples to me. Melvin Ingram is a FAR superior football player. Sure, Coples looks the part moreso than Ingram, but as far as on the field, Ingram blows him away across the board.

I'm still on the Cox bandwagon, but if he's gone I would much rather have any of these guys over Coples:

- Melvin Ingram

- Stephon Gilmore (who I'm also not a huge fan of)

- Michael Floyd

- David DeCastro

- Mark Barron

- Janoris Jenkins

- Dre Kirkpatrick

- Jerel Worthy

I know a lot of folks here like Coples, but being a homestate prospect doesn't make him a good pick or player. If every fan of in-state teams had their way we'd be 1-15 every year with all N.C. State, UNC, ECU, Duke, Wake Forest, and App. State players.

I know Hurney's never missed in the 1st round, which gives me hope that maybe I'm just missing something with Coples, but honestly, this could be the one that goes wrong if we really do make Coples our pick. We badly need this pick to work for this team to continue improving and we can't afford another Everette Brown - not in the 2nd and certainly not at 9th overall.

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Please. Let's not get into the "it's not really game tape" debate here. No poo it's not game tape. But you can sure as poo tell when the guy you're watching is as bad as Coples was in those vids.

More UNC homers who'd rather have their boy than the best player.

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I would be pretty upset if we took Coples early in the first round but that's really only because I feel like there will be players available who can make a larger more immediate impact. If you watch more of his play he does have some skills and he does have the physical tools to be very good.

If he goes to a team with the right situation / coach he could very well turn into a solid / exceptional player...he's just not right for an early first round pick. He is still a kid basically and the football climate at UNC hasn't exactly been utopia lately (and no, for the record, I am not a Tar Heel fan...I'm in the "please don't let those assholes win at anything" club when it relates to UNC)

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Please. Let's not get into the "it's not really game tape" debate here. No poo it's not game tape. But you can sure as poo tell when the guy you're watching is as bad as Coples was in those vids.

More UNC homers who'd rather have their boy than the best player.

It has more to do with coming to a conclusion based on YouTube clips, which have been picked and chosen by the uploader.
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It has more to do with coming to a conclusion based on YouTube clips, which have been picked and chosen by the uploader.

The videos have every snap the player takes from a given game. They're not "picked and chosen" by the uploader, they just put all the snaps together into one video.

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Well you lose credibility when you say.

The guy is fuging terrible. Just awful.

He would not be a projected top 15 pick if this was the case.

So stop exaggerating. its childish.

If Rivera took precious pre-draft time to meet with him, again. Then he is not terrible, hes not even just okay. He is a super talented player, who could have a huge impact on this Defense.

If Rivera and Hurney, who have watch tons and tons of real game tape, think he is worthy of visits, then he is much better than what you are saying.

Btw, he was top 6 in QB hurries.

Stop being ridiculous.

Btw, I am a fuggin NC State fan.

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In short: Dude is Butt. He looks like he's always on valum when they interview him and mumbles more than Shaq, so I have hard time thinking he's gonna get to get jacked up to play on Sundays . Who knows maybe Rivera can get him a Temperpedic bed and a cattle prod

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