Some Don't Want Cam Scoring On The Ground ?

[CRA]

He did all the running he needed to last season, defense will respect his legs on every play from now on. You do not need to give him carries.

Doesn't work like that. Cam's legs literally setup different aspects of our offense. If he isn't running.....defenses will then tee off differently on the offense.

[NCstoner420]

Doesn't work like that. Cam's legs literally setup different aspects of our offense. If he isn't running.....defenses will then tee off differently on the offense.

And you unleash him at that point. He doesn't need to be running it up the middle in short yard situations and the addition of Tolbert seems to point to that case.

[CRA]

And you unleash him at that point. He doesn't need to be running it up the middle in short yard situations and the addition of Tolbert seems to point to that case.

He needs to remain part of the goaline work....not be all of it. I have no issue with someone claiming other people can hammer 1 yarders in.....but those were probably 3 % of his rushes.

I think Tolbert was brought in mainly for 3rd down pass protection work, ST and light FB work.

[NCstoner420]

He needs to remain part of the goaline work....not be all of it. I have no issue with someone claiming other people can hammer 1 yarders in.....but those were probably 3 % of his rushes.

I think Tolbert was brought in mainly for 3rd down pass protection work, ST and light FB work.

Like with any fast player you want to give them space to work with and smashing into the backs of your offensive line is something your franchise quarterback shouldn't be doing too often. Quick fullback handoff or let Stewart smash his way into the pile with a head start is the way that I am leaning come goalline plays.

[weymouthst]

I say let Cam play some damn football! He's 22 guys damn.

[Lumps]

Doesn't work like that. Cam's legs literally setup different aspects of our offense. If he isn't running.....defenses will then tee off differently on the offense.

It's not that Cam should stop running, he needs to rely on passing. Having Cam's legs set up different aspects of our offense will do absolutely nothing for us in the long run, when he can no longer do so which will someday come. Regardless, the QB is a position where Cam's arm needs to setup most aspects of our offense. So my argument would be to stop running Cam because I would rather him be feared as a passer, as a QB who picks defenses apart.

That way he can play a nice long career. Sure let him run, but don't let Cam build a career, build an offense around his own legs. So its not that I don't want him injured or don't want the benefits of all the running. I still see situations where Cam could run and see no issue with it now but it should not be his main weapon as a QB.

No one can judge how someone will age. Some can take hits forever and run forever. Some don't, but in the mean time I think it is better to take precautions, not for injury sake (though there is an argument here) but for the ability of our QB to pass it accurately like the best and have that be his main weapon. Cam is young and should learn this now rather than later if we really want multiple championships.

[CRA]

Like with any fast player you want to give them space to work with and smashing into the backs of your offensive line is something your franchise quarterback shouldn't be doing too often. Quick fullback handoff or let Stewart smash his way into the pile with a head start is the way that I am leaning come goalline plays.

I don't recall us hammering Cam though....he gets in pretty easily.

[CRA]

It's not that Cam should stop running, he needs to rely on passing. Having Cam's legs set up different aspects of our offense will do absolutely nothing for us in the long run, when he can no longer do so which will someday come. Regardless, the QB is a position where Cam's arm needs to setup most aspects of our offense. So my argument would be to stop running Cam because I would rather him be feared as a passer, as a QB who picks defenses apart.

That way he can play a nice long career. Sure let him run, but don't let Cam build a career, build an offense around his own legs. So its not that I don't want him injured or don't want the benefits of all the running. I still see situations where Cam could run and see no issue with it now but it should not be his main weapon as a QB.

No one can judge how someone will age. Some can take hits forever and run forever. Some don't, but in the mean time I think it is better to take precautions, not for injury sake (though there is an argument here) but for the ability of our QB to pass it accurately like the best and have that be his main weapon. Cam is young and should learn this now rather than later if we really want multiple championships.

It is a win now league.

So Cam shouldn't run and dominate now bc in 6-7 years he will likely be asked to play a little different?

In 6-7 years when he isn't young he hopefully will have developed into a better QB who can attack differently. I don't get why you would want him to limit himself now...

Cam isnt suppose to play the game like others...

[Mr. Scot]

Every coach has to play the "risk vs reward" game, and not just with QBs.

Do you put starters on special teams when the team needs a spark?

Do you send Steve Smith on crossing routes when there's a headhunting safety on the other side?

And yeah, do you send Cam Newton on a designed run when opposing linebackers are itching for a shot at him?

One of the things that makes a smart head coach is knowing when to gamble, and when not to. What we have to hope is that Rivera has the ability to make the right decisions on those fronts.

My guess? You'll see fewer designed Newton runs this season, goal line and otherwise. Maybe not a lot fewer, but fewer still seems a likely strategy. I'd guess as his career goes on, the downward trend will continue.

Complain if you want, but you have to balance risk and reward.

[CRA]

Every coach has to play the "risk vs reward" game, and not just with QBs.

Do you put starters on special teams when the team needs a spark?

Do you send Steve Smith on crossing routes when there's a headhunting safety on the other side?

And yeah, do you send Cam Newton on a designed run when opposing linebackers are itching for a shot at him?

One of the things that makes a smart head coach is knowing when to gamble, and when not to. What we have to hope is that Rivera has the ability to make the right decisions on those fronts.

My guess? You'll see fewer designed Newton runs this season, goal line and otherwise. Maybe not a lot fewer, but fewer still seems a likely strategy. I'd guess as his career goes on, the downward trend will continue.

Complain if you want, but you have to balance risk and reward.

I also would argue Newton had very few designed runs where Cam running was THE play.

The read option stuff is where Cam did the bulk of his running and that allows him to dictate who runs and what happens off of reading the defense.

[MadHatter]

I also would argue Newton had very few designed runs where Cam running was THE play.

The read option stuff is where Cam did the bulk of his running and that allows him to dictate who runs and what happens off of reading the defense.

They were designed running plays on the goal line. Everyone in the stadium and the opposing team coaches KNEW that Cam was running a QB Draw.

I loved the read option calls that gave Cam the decision....I loved his ability to scramble and run when the play broke down....I would just prefer to see Stew and Tolbert get the majority of the goal line runs.

[csx]

They shouldn't ever allow him to run, ever.

[CRA]

They were designed running plays on the goal line. Everyone in the stadium and the opposing team coaches KNEW that Cam was running a QB Draw.

I loved the read option calls that gave Cam the decision....I loved his ability to scramble and run when the play broke down....I would just prefer to see Stew and Tolbert get the majority of the goal line runs.

how many total times was that? I mean it is a tiny number in reality.

[Mr. Scot]

I also would argue Newton had very few designed runs where Cam running was THE play.

The read option stuff is where Cam did the bulk of his running and that allows him to dictate who runs and what happens off of reading the defense.

I count those, but I accept it as valid if others don't.