Shirley Could Be The Odd Man Out In Dt Battle.

[koolkatluke]

Oh yeah dude I want flim or video not a pic. I want to see 2 guy actual blocking fua.

[panther4life]

Sorry my phone won't open whatever that is.

Yea I edited the post because it did not work. Lets just drop it dude. If you have access to any of the games you will see what I mean, but in the grand scheme of things its really not worth arguing over on here.

[panther4life]

Oh yeah dude I want flim or video not a pic. I want to see 2 guy actual blocking fua.

Your only option for that is to drop 9.99 on nil rewind, you will it see there or we can just drop it.

[Swaggasaurus]

If someone on here thinks that Fua took no doubles or even less doubles than McClain then I sincerely hope your condition improves. Get well soon KKL, get well soon.

[koolkatluke]

If someone on here thinks that Fua took no doubles or even less doubles than McClain then I sincerely hope your condition improves. Get well soon KKL, get well soon.

I don't think either were really double teamed. I think most team were able to handle them 1 on 1 and let the other guard or center cause havoc to our 2nd and 3rd level.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

I could see the Panthers keeping all six and only rolling with four safety's instead of five or somehow rearrange a position so they can keep all six of their defensive tackle's.

The reason I say this is because who know's how long Ron Edwards has left in his career. He may not play much longer so as soon as he leaves we have our five man rotation.

[koolkatluke]

There is no weight limit to playing the 3 tech you know. Just because a guy is taller or heavier does not mean that he cannot play that position. If you are not good at rushing the passer which McClain and Neblett are not (not any better than anyone else that we have) it does not make since to have the smaller guy in there. I repeat there is no size restriction on playing the three, however the smaller guys do usually play there.

I see you're trolling because you have nothing else better to do. But I have some time to school you so let's have some fun.

Before we start I Hope you know the difference in DT's and what they are ask to do.

"0" Tech - Instructs defender to align "head up" on the center.

"1" Tech - Instructs defender to align his outside shoulder with the inside shoulder of the guard.

"2" Tech - Instructs defender to align "head up" on the guard.

"3" Tech - Instructs defender to align his inside shoulder with the outside shoulder of the guard.

"4" Tech - Instructs defender to align outside shoulder with the inside shoulder of the tackle.

"5" Tech - Instructs defender to align inside shoulder with the outside shoulder of the tackle.

"7" Tech - Instructs defender to align outside shoulder with the inside shoulder of the tight end. If no tight end, defender aligns on the imaginary tight end.

"6" Tech - Instructs defender to align "head up" on tight end.

"9" Tech - Instructs defender to align inside shoulder on the outside shoulder of the tight end.

http://football.calsci.com/Positions8.html

Nose tackles are two-gap players, and are typically very big and very strong men, usually 350 pounds or more and 6'5" or taller. These guys have the responsibility of clogging up the entire center of the field, of keeping the center and at least one guard busy, and thereby protecting their middle linebacker. The nose tackle will also be responsible in passing plays to push the center back towards the quarterback so that the quarterback cannot step up in the pocket and evade the rush of the defensive ends. A good nose tackle can be hit simultaneously by 650 pounds of center and guard and will not budge as much as one inch.

A 3-technique tackle lines up between the offensive guard and tackle. A 3-technique tackle is supposed to run through his gap immediately. He is a 1-gap player. His job is not to block or get tied up in a block, but rather to be athletic and get himself into the offensive backfield and disrupt their plans. Because of this a 3-technique tackle is a lighter more athletic guy than a nose tackle, typically weighing more like 290 to 300 pounds.

[Kuech the Sneak]

I could see the Panthers keeping all six and only rolling with four safety's instead of five or somehow rearrange a position so they can keep all six of their defensive tackle's.

The reason I say this is because who know's how long Ron Edwards has left in his career. He may not play much longer so as soon as he leaves we have our five man rotation.

I think they could keep all 6 of them...but Rivera does like to keep alot of linebackers...get rid of armanti and pickles and that gives the freedom to keep 6

[Swaggasaurus]

Again you act as if there is a weight limit of 300 lbs. Kris Jenkins? Albert Haynesworth? I said in my post that 3 techs are usually smaller. My point here is that if you will take a moment to think about this you are using size to determine who makes the roster. I do not really think that you are that dumb. Please prove me right on that

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

I think they could keep all 6 of them...but Rivera does like to keep alot of linebackers...get rid of armanti and pickles and that gives the freedom to keep 6

See I'm with you, I feel like we can stack up on defense rather than stack up on offense considering most of our injuries were on the defensive side of the ball.

However, I'm not sure about A.E. I feel like if they cut him, they will just replace his roster spot with Chris Manno or Jared Green

I see quarterback, running back/fullback, tight end, and safety as positions that the Panthers may cut down on to keep more defensive tackle's, defensive ends, linebackers, and cornerbacks.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Everyone needs to realize the the "tech" has nothing to do with weight it's based on the defensive players ability, his ability to line up at different positions and stances.

Three-tech lines up on the outside shoulder of the left or right guard.

Example of three-tech's are Kevin Williams, Kyle Williams, Shaun Rogers, and Tommy Kelly.

A three-tech is a pass rusher.

[Kuech the Sneak]

Seriously...what tech you play is based on a skill-set, not how big you are. Jay Ratliff plays the nose at under or around 300 pounds.

[koolkatluke]

Now lets go down the List of DT's we all feel will make this team.

Terrell McClain

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/2/16/1984765/terrell-mcclain-nfl-draft-scouting-report

McClain showed a great motor and effort which will help with his transition to the NFL. Ideally, he would be a fit as a 3 technique that is free to shoot the gap. However, with proper coaching he might be able to develop into an adequate 2 gap defender; thanks to his thick lower half.

Andre Nebblet

He is more effective hitting gaps and playing the edges than he is trying to take on blockers and playing a two-gap system.

Sounds like a 3 tech to me.

Frank Krease

http://www.fanaticalfootballfiend.com/3/post/2011/1/frank-kearse-scouting-reports.html

Analysis: Kearse is a strong, wide-bodied defender who does a better job occupying blockers rather than making plays up the field. He could develop into a zero-technique/nose tackle prospect at the next level as he physically matures, adds bulk to his frame, and gets stronger."

Sione Fua

http://www.fanaticalfootballfiend.com/3/post/2010/12/sione-fua.html

He's thick, powerful, plays with leverage and can really create a jolt on contact. Isn't a dynamic pass rusher, but can win for you inside as a nose on first and second down. An eventual starting caliber 4-3 nose tackle in the NFL."

Jason Shirley

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1532

A massive clogger inside, Shirley is a true two-gap player.

and Ron Edwards is nothing but a run stuffer he has never been know as having a pass rusher.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Now lets go down the List of DT's we all feel will make this team.

Terrell McClain

http://www.mockingth...scouting-report

McClain showed a great motor and effort which will help with his transition to the NFL. Ideally, he would be a fit as a 3 technique that is free to shoot the gap. However, with proper coaching he might be able to develop into an adequate 2 gap defender; thanks to his thick lower half.

Andre Nebblet

He is more effective hitting gaps and playing the edges than he is trying to take on blockers and playing a two-gap system.

Sounds like a 3 tech to me.

Frank Krease

http://www.fanatical...ng-reports.html

Analysis: Kearse is a strong, wide-bodied defender who does a better job occupying blockers rather than making plays up the field. He could develop into a zero-technique/nose tackle prospect at the next level as he physically matures, adds bulk to his frame, and gets stronger."

Sione Fua

http://www.fanatical.../sione-fua.html

He's thick, powerful, plays with leverage and can really create a jolt on contact. Isn't a dynamic pass rusher, but can win for you inside as a nose on first and second down. An eventual starting caliber 4-3 nose tackle in the NFL."

Jason Shirley

http://www.fftoolbox...rospect_id=1532

A massive clogger inside, Shirley is a true two-gap player.

and Ron Edwards is nothing but a run stuffer he has never been know as having a pass rusher.

All six should make the roster, Rivera will most likely figure a way out to keep them.