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Comparing Lesean Mccoy's Contract To D-Will's

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Actually you don't like Williams or the money he got and take every chance to bash him. McCoy has been in the league 3 years. If you look at his 3rd year versus Williams 3rd year- Williams was better. As for right now it is really hard to compare 2 backs in totally different systems. McCoy has been in the same system for 3 years and Williams had a totally new system and started out slowly. He came on as the year progressed. McCoy averaged roughly 3.4 yards in the last 8 games while Williams averaged almost 6 yards a carry. Sure McCoy had more yards and more TDs but Williams had a better YPC and had little chance to score in the redzone. Most of his TDs were from outside the 20 which is more impressive than a guy who gets most of his close to the goal line. If williams contract was not worth the money than neither was McCoy's. Age is the only real difference. If you think about it, Williams was a much better deal. Sure we paid him big bucks but got alot more use of him for cheap compared to McCoy who broke the bank after only 3 years.

Contract is a unique beast. Not a like a or hate Williams thing. But people like to blur hating the contract = Williams hate. I don't want to talk contract.

I don't think Williams was the best RB in the NFL in 2011 or going forward. Call me crazy. McCoy has the potential to be these next couple seasons.

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career- easily Williams gets graded as the better RB to date.

From 2011 forward...I just don't see how you can pick Williams over McCoy. McCoy is entering those beastly years. Showed it last year.

How do you know. He could tear an ACL like Peterson and be out all year. Each year stands on its own and you can't look at last year as a prediction of next year.

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Contract is a unique beast. Not a like a or hate Williams thing. But people like to blur hating the contract = Williams hate. I don't want to talk contract.

I don't think Williams was the best RB in the NFL in 2011 or going forward. Call me crazy. McCoy has the potential to be these next couple seasons.

Williams wasn't the best back in 2011 but you can't know what McCoy will be going forward just like you could look at WIlliams after 2008 and predict great things but it didn't really work out that way.

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How do you know. He could tear an ACL like Peterson and be out all year. Each year stands on its own and you can't look at last year as a prediction of next year.

Okay, if I can't use last year.....then all past activity gets thrown out.

I think the diverse 23 yr old has better odds than the 29 yr old rusher as being the better overall NFL RB in 2012

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I would still like for someone to name a RB that was better than Williams in 2011 if you think McCoy wasn't.

I mean, if you claim Williams was better in 2011..... I think that means you have to claim Williams was the best RB in the NFL in 2011 doesn't?

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Okay, if I can't use last year.....then all past activity gets thrown out.

I think the diverse 23 yr old has better odds than the 29 yr old rusher as being the better overall NFL RB in 2012

Just like Peterson's history made him a shoo-in for 2011, right?? Football isn't a sport where you always get linear and predictable results.

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Just like Peterson's history made him a shoo-in for 2011, right?? Football isn't a sport where you always get linear and predictable results.

Injury can happen to anyone. If you are arguing anyone can get injured as the reason against McCoy being better currently than lets just call everyone even then.

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Injury can happen to anyone. If you are arguing anyone can get injured as the reason against McCoy being better currently than lets just call everyone even then.

Actually right now everyone is even. 2012 has nothing to do with 2011. Just because a player had a great last year has nothing to do with what happens this year.

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I would still like for someone to name a RB that was better than Williams in 2011 if you think McCoy wasn't.

I mean, if you claim Williams was better in 2011..... I think that means you have to claim Williams was the best RB in the NFL in 2011 doesn't?

I know this isn't directed at me, but I'm of the opinion that McCoy had a better 2011 than Williams but that doesn't make him a better RB. One could argue McCoy had the best 2011 of any RB. I wouldn't argue against that, especially since 2011 was a down year for RBs. No one really had a beastly 2011. Compare the best of 2011 against the best of 2009 and back and it really pales. Evolution of the game is a part of that, but I don't think this is a reason to hate on Deangelo's worth to the team. Even if Deangelo doesn't put up more stats this year than last, as long as he continues to bust out those 20 yard TDs and average over 5 ypc I'll be happy with it. The team is better with him than without. I wouldn't argue that the team is $8mil a year better with him than without, though I also wouldn't argue that some of that $8mil woulda been nice to spend on some defense, like Johnathan Joseph.

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Actually right now everyone is even. 2012 has nothing to do with 2011. Just because a player had a great last year has nothing to do with what happens this year.

Everyone doesn't have the same potential. Odds favor betting on certain horses. Injuries happen, poo in general happens so no one knows how the season is going to play itself out...

2011 happened. past tense. We can talk about that and are.

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