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Cam's stats will not be as impressive next year...


Peppermint9030

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Absolutely you let him scramble, that's who Cam is. I don't think anyone is arguing against that. More the goal line situations, I would like to see less of him having to lunge over the opposing defense. We have three more than capable running backs that can punch it in if we choose not to pass.

Big game....must score a TD.

Who do you want running it in? A RB or let Cam call the shots himself on who goes in?

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For Cam the turnovers will drop and the Touchdowns will rise(passing) Rushing will stay roughly the same only TD's will drop. Upgraded Defense will provide shorter fields and more scoring opportunities for Smitty and Co as well as triple trouble.

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The threat is already there. There are plenty of options to play with. Why use the one option you cannot afford to lose?
I'm being very specific for a reason.

I'm not talking in a general sense about defenses trying to stop or account for a scrambling QB.

No, I'm talking about teams trying to stop the designed QB read-option/zone-read plays.

I think you fail to acknowledge the specific benefit read-option/zone read plays had on your offense as whole and in the RZ in particular.

And how important and impactful the zone-read/read option elements are to having a top 5 scoring offense.

I just want my once in a lifetime, swag monging, reinventor of the Franchise QB position, QB to have a long and healthy career. You guys are infatuated with what could be. While I applaud the idea, I have to politely refuse to join that line of thinking.
This is a paradoxial statement.

If you truely believe Cam is a reinventor of the Franchise QB position how can you want to remove or limit the very thing that makes unique?

And I disagree about being infatuated with what could be (although the sky is the limit) I think you are missing what is actual happening.

Second. There is a part of me that is curious as to how Shanny uses RG3. A small part, as they are my least favorite team. But for you, I try.
lol no worries, hate away.

its kinda ironic though because awhile back a decent chunk of Carolina used to be Redskins country now ya'll got your own team so feel free to hate my Burgundy and Gold, no skin off my back.

I'm curious to see how Kyle Shanahan uses Griff too.

Griff lacks the stature to pose the same challenge that Cam does in the zone-read/read option plays, but I hope Kyle can use Chudz as a guide.

BTW-(If you are from/near Charlotte) I went to this awesome "gentlemens clubs" down there I believe on Tryon street is it still there and what's it called?

This place was huge, had a large ceilings, plush lounge chairs and couches and a long runway.

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I'm being very specific for a reason.

I'm not talking in a general sense about defenses trying to stop or account for a scrambling QB.

No, I'm talking about teams trying to stop the designed QB read-option/zone-read plays.

I think you fail to acknowledge the specific benefit read-option/zone read plays had on your offense as whole and in the RZ in particular.

And how important and impactful the zone-read/read option elements are to having a top 5 scoring offense.

This is a paradoxial statement.

If you truely believe Cam is a reinventor of the Franchise QB position how can you want to remove or limit the very thing that makes unique?

And I disagree about being infatuated with what could be (although the sky is the limit) I think you are missing what is actual happening.

lol no worries, hate away.

its kinda ironic though because awhile back a decent chunk of Carolina used to be Redskins country now ya'll got your own team so feel free to hate my Burgundy and Gold, no skin off my back.

I'm curious to see how Kyle Shanahan uses Griff too.

Griff lacks the stature to pose the same challenge that Cam does in the zone-read/read option plays, but I hope Kyle can use Chudz as a guide.

BTW-(If you are from/near Charlotte) I went to this awesome "gentlemens clubs" down there I believe on Tryon street is it still there and what's it called?

This place was huge, had a large ceilings, plush lounge chairs and couches and a long runway.

I realize my line of thinking goes against the grain of what Cam can be. And I agree with the why limit him thinking as well. I am not advocating eleminating the read-option. Just not running it 10-15 times a game. I just happen to believe Cam can still be effective without having to run the ball so much.

The threat is already there. You can still use the formation, play, and any counters you wish. I just want Cam around. And I feel those designed runs are just too dangerous. I know that I am preaching to the choir. Because it really is counterproductive to limit Cam. Thank Zod he is a tank and seems to have a knack for knowing exactly when the play is done and gets down.

I am just scared of being the Panthers without Cam. We have all seen where that leads.

I grew up in Mich as a Lions fan. Just seemed like every time we had a good year we would play the skins int he playoffs, and get smoked. That more than anything is why I hate the skins. My mothers favorite team was the Lions and anyone that beat the skins. lol

I live in Spartanburg, about 2 miles fromt the practice fields. But I know the place you speak of. Have not been there in years, so I cannot remember the name. My favorite dancer was Breanna.

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