So while cam was turning the ball over today

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

were not fine with losing but matt moore? get out of here with that bullsh1t

he was handed the keys and completely blew it.

that's not fair though because the coaching staff had lost the team and was entering tear down/rebuild mode. it's not matt's fault.

that situation, of course, is totally different from what's going on right now and all of the panthers' losses this season are cam's fault.

[ickmule]

I love how race always comes up. I don't care if the guy is purple. The truth is its not just his play, but his demeanor and attitude. All of this has nothing to do with color. Cutler is almost exactly the same in every way to Cam and he is white. They both lack "it". I honestly thought at the end of last year Cam would be different and really show the world. Anyone being honest with themselves can admit Cam is not showing the true leadership attributes we would like to see from him.

[Shonuff]

Not that, you are a Panthers fan that wants wins. Don't get me wrong I love Cam. But people like KT ruin for me. It's not because you are black...it's because my fuging team isn't winning. He is the one throwing the rock. Too high, too low, off the back foot. Into triple coverage because he can't figure defenses out.

Put me on the same train as Grits I guess. It's because he's black. fuging stupid .

Did you see wtf Jay Cutler was doing? and he wasn't playing against the No. 1 D in the league....I think some of you expect perfection out of Cam....ain't gonna happen.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

he wouldn't save the franchise but we'd be better than 1-6

well fantastic. we're back at square 1, needing an actual franchise quarterback, regardless of whether moore is here or not.

by the way i think we'd be more like 0-7 if matt was the starter here but that's just my opinion.

[Kurb]

OP bant 24 hours

[YourMomsLover]

i dont understand at all how this things correlate, could you expound?

How about you give me your perspective and we can go from there.

[SZ James (banned)]

i want you to look me in my internet face

[Shonuff]

I love how race always comes up. I don't care if the guy is purple. The truth is its not just his play, but his demeanor and attitude. All of this has nothing to do with color. Cutler is almost exactly the same in every way to Cam and he is white. They both lack "it". I honestly thought at the end of last year Cam would be different and really show the world. Anyone being honest with themselves can admit Cam is not showing the true leadership attributes we would like to see from him.

So, if the D steps up and stops Atlanta, Chicago, etc.. and the Panthers are 4-3......what is the "it" factor? Because one of the "its", Jay Cutler is 6-1....this ain't a Cam problem. He has some growing up to do and hopefully play improvement, but this is the most incompetent head coaching in the league and it's not close.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

also i don't know where the fug you get the notion that matt "blew out the jets" today, as if he threw 4 TDs and passed for 450 yards like a brady, brees, or rodgers.

he completed 11 passes for a touchdown and 131 yards. the dolphins' defense shut out the jets until the third quarter and they didn't actually get in to the endzone until the fourth. miami also had a blocked punt for a touchdown and a blocked field goal. this illustrates the utter absurdity of attributing "wins" to quarterbacks.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

yeah i worded it like that for a reason

[raleigh-panther]

I guess you guys are fine with losing.

I don't think anyone is fine losing.

so, what is your suggestion to fix the Panthers, cut Cam newton, Bench Cam Newton, trade d-will to bring back Matt Moore.

Do dazzle us with your football knowledge.

[SZ James (banned)]

yeah i worded it like that for a reason

It took way too long for you to bait for an avatar quote, btw

[ickmule]

So, if the D steps up and stops Atlanta, Chicago, etc.. and the Panthers are 4-3......what is the "it" factor? Because one of the "its", Jay Cutler is 6-1....this ain't a Cam problem. He has some growing up to do and hopefully play improvement, but this is the most incompetent head coaching in the league and it's not close.

I'll agree much of this is coaching, but be honest for a moment, Cam lacks a lot of leadership qualities and acts like a damn baby. One case for you; today after Murphy recovers the Cam fumble, what does Cam do? He trots over to the sideline instead of thanking Murphy for saving his ass. The guy is not showing that he is a team player and leader. I'm sorry if some cant see these things because they choose to be blind fans. I've said it numerous times, I hope he turns it around and proves me wrong, but I don't see it happening.

[YourMomsLover]

Too much for you PhillyB? Come on buddy. You only attack people with questions. "Oh you feel this way? Why is that?"